Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tiger Stadium

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy close. This is Articles for deletion, not Wikipedia:Requested moves. There is already a discussion of this move at Talk:Tiger Stadium#Proposed_Move Uncle G 13:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tiger Stadium

Tiger Stadium (discussion|history|protect|delete|undelete|logs|links)

It is proposed that Tiger Stadium be moved to Tiger Stadium (Detroit) as to disambiguate it from other Tiger Stadiums. This requires four steps:

1. The current Tiger Stadium (Detroit) redirect be deleted.
2. The current Tiger Stadium article be moved to Tiger Stadium (Detroit).
3. Tiger Stadium (disambiguation) be moved to Tiger Stadium.
4. Tiger Stadium (disambiguation) then be deleted. Flibirigit 12:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Background info

Hmmmm.... I'm struggling to determine if when someone types in "Tiger Stadium", do they mean the baseball stadium or LSU's stadium? I also wonder what the Wikipedia precendence is for moving an article to a disambiguation page? I'd say that a MLB baseball stadium has more importance than a college football stadium, regardless of capacity, but I'm not sure about a closed-down baseball stadium.

I guess I'm not sure that all the work that went into moving "Tiger Stadium" to "Tiger Stadium (Detroit)" was worth it, or even appropriate. X96lee15 22:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Such a large reorganization should have been discussed first. Flibirigit 05:10, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I am proposing one of the two options.

1. That Tiger Stadium (Detroit) as it exists to be deleted for the reasons, it does NOT INCLUDE the edit history of the Tiger Stadium article. These edit histories are essential to Wikipedia.
2. That a REQmove be done to merge and perserve edit histories. Flibirigit 05:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not discussing the "move" and sorry for not realizing how to properly move an article. I didn't think there would be anything controversial about the two major Tiger Stadiums agreeing not to hog the Tiger Stadium page. As for the edit history issue, I didn't think that would be a big deal. By moving Tiger Stadium to Tiger Stadium (Detroit), the old edit history would still always be at the original Tiger Stadium page for anyone who wanted to go back there looking for something. As you know, what I did was I cut-and-pasted the Tiger Stadium page over to Tiger Stadium Detroit. But I also did a google search to find all the instances of "Tiger Stadium" on wikipedia, and I went to a large number of those pages and changed the all links that pointed to Tiger Stadium and changed them so that they now point to Tiger Stadium (Detroit). Once again, sorry about that, but I didn't think it would be controversial. Anyway, the point is that this isn't something that is going to go away. In the years to come, more and more people will get frustrated by the fact that Detroit is hogging the Tiger Stadium page. Before the Tiger Stadium page was created on behalf of Detroit's Tiger Stadium, the creator should have searched the internet to make sure their wasn't any other major Tiger Stadium out there. Because of his or her negligence, that is why the situation is the way it is today. Wikiwopbop 06:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Move

As per discussions above, I am inviting comments on whether the Tiger Stadium namespace should be the status quo, (reserved for the soon to be demolished baseball stadium in Detroit), or should it be switched to disambiguation page for all Tiger Stadiums. Please comment below. Thanks. Flibirigit 10:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

• Switch Even though I am sentimentally attached to Tiger Stadium as a Detroit Tigers fan, I don't think a soon to be demolished stadium is prevalent enough to keep as a main namespace when there are other existing Tiger Stadiums. Flibirigit 10:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Switch I must admit that I am biased towards LSU and do a lot of work on LSU related pages, but the rational, unbiased side of me still believes that a switch to the disambiguation page is appropriate. Seancp 20:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Switch Granted that nobody outside the United States looking for "Tiger Stadium" is likely to know of the LSU stadium (or even of LSU or college sports in general), but if Tiger Stadium in Detroit is going to be demolished it shouldn't be the default. --Charlene 13:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.