Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tibetan American

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Johnleemk | Talk 09:36, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tibetan American

The article appears to consist of various ramblings which are incoherent and have little to do with the title.

In fact the 'ramblings' are not 'various' nor 'incoherent'. The title is Tibetan Americans. I added what I knew about Tibetan Americans in my own state, and the reason those Tibetans ended up in Colorado to begin with. This is just the seed of an article, as so many begin. It would be nice to see you add something contribute something useful to the article itself! Chris 05:03, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

See, that's not what I'm really trying to accomplish either, there are significant groups of Tibetans in California, Oregon, Idaho and elsewhere, I'm just not the guy who knows much about them. Please leave the article where it is and don't delete it for a while. Leave it to grow and I think you will be pleased to see what may happen to it. I do appreciate the interest in this, truly! Chris 05:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

    • Would that all authors of AFD-nominated articles viewed it as "interest." —Wahoofive (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • I could see a valid topic here under a different name, something like Tibetan culture in the United States or Tibetan immigration to the United States. I would vote keep and rename if the article reflected that sort of idea. Perhaps someone who knows something systematic about Tibetans in the US could give it a shot. As it stands, this looks like a delete, but I could be convinced otherwise. Bikeable 05:51, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep (somewhere) for cleanup, it's not great but could become something. Gazpacho 08:28, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Maybe merge various bits to collarado and tibet if they can be verified. Ben Aveling 10:41, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. It isn't very good, but the subject is valid. Some of the data may be useful to later writers who wish to write a better article. Tag appropriately for disputed and cleanup if kept. Smerdis of Tlön 15:19, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete In theory (WP:ASB), every single ethnic-identity could be cross-referenced with every single nation which would produce something like 1.5 million articles. Tibetan Russians, Berber Indonesians, Inuit Caledonians? A bar needs to be established, and this strikes me as below threshold. Eusebeus 06:45, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment. In the United States, a great deal is made of the ethnic origins of the non-Native populace; the whole business of a "nation of immigrants" and so forth. If Italian Americans get an article, Tibetan Americans are prima facie entitled to one. At minimum the burden of persuasion should be in showing that the Tibetan immigrant community is insignificant. The slippery slope argument doesn't work here; few will be moved to bother writing articles about minimal or hypothetical immigrant communities in every nation. Smerdis of Tlön 17:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Weak delete per Ben Aveling. Stifle 00:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep valid topic, vfd is not cleanup.  Grue  16:02, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and expand. -- JJay 18:34, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, Tibetan Americans should already be covered in Chinese American.Gateman1997 23:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.