Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thrillville (theater event)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. W.marsh 19:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thrillville (theater event)
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Non-notable theatre event, just monthly themed film nights Steve (Stephen) talk 06:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep My gut tells me it's not notable, but the "Press" section cites three articles from three different newspapers. When in doubt, don't delete. YechielMan 15:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- It is very notable for those of us in the Bay Area trying to preserve the history of trash and B cinema. Thrillville is one of the many icons of cinema culture in the Bay Area. The Parkway (and thus Thrillville) does tend to get much less press being in Oakland and not San Francisco (the Roxie in San Francisco gets much more press for similar program items). Raitosan 16:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep without prejudice. I deleted the article (pre-move) because at that time, it read like ad copy, and the key editor had only edited on this subject. Now, it reads like an encyclopedia article (which is why I didn't speedily delete it again), and an experienced editor (User:Migp) is working at bringing it into compliance. I'm willing to give it a little more time to mature and for information to be gathered to corroborate some of what's asserted on its talk page. I can't agree to delete the article at this time; if the sources don't turn up after a couple of months, I can be swayed, but keep it for now. —C.Fred (talk) 16:49, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. (Full disclosure: I've worked on extensively editing the page to add references and to bring it in line with encyclopedic tone, etc.) I do agree that a "themed movie night" per se is not notable; however, this one is, given the fact that it incorporates live theater, has had a 10-year run, and that Viharo and his show are well respected in the cult movie community. I do grant that "well respected in the cult movie community" is difficult to explain per Wikipedia:Notability, so I (and hopefully others) will work on 3rd party references and citations, which this event does have. Migp 18:16, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. I know it's chicken-and-egg since the show is a major claim to fame for him, but is Viharo the more notable entity than the show? At least one external link seemed to focus more on him than Thrillville. Right now, I'm thinking between the two of them, one good article can be supported. The question is whose. —C.Fred (talk) 21:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Reply. I do see validity in your question. Based on my familiarity with the topic, I think that the program (Thrillville) is the article to be supported, with Viharo (the person) as a component of the article. Incidentally, although this is a slight deviation to this discussion, I do think that Viharo's father is noteworthy enough [1] for creation of an article ("Robert Viharo") but I lack familiarity with the subject matter enough to create it. Migp 00:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. I know it's chicken-and-egg since the show is a major claim to fame for him, but is Viharo the more notable entity than the show? At least one external link seemed to focus more on him than Thrillville. Right now, I'm thinking between the two of them, one good article can be supported. The question is whose. —C.Fred (talk) 21:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Thrillville is an authentic nexus of the San Francisco Bay Area's renowned creative community. It regularly exposes emerging Northern California musical and performance artists to new audiences. It gives a second life to overlooked or lost films. It feeds content to, and provides a live venue for, an extremely creative regional television program. And Thrillville has been instrumental in preserving one, and restoring another, traditional single-screen movie theater through conversion to an innovative "cabaret" format -- with real food and drink, and special screenings for new parents (bring your infants and let them all wail away). Like WikiPedia itself...(ahem) Thrillville is a center of innovation and a unique public service. Any conflicts with other Wiki "Thrillville" entries can be readily accommodated through the current disambiguation notices. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Minirvana (talk • contribs) 20:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC).
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