Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thor Salden

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The result was keep. W.marsh 23:55, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thor Salden

Thor Salden (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

non notable people google 872hits. Adbangse 19:39, 19 November 2006 (UTC) — Adbangse (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• Weak Keep I'm not sure of whether those charts mentioned count as "national music charts" for the purposes of WP:MUSIC, or if winning the Belgian Junior Eurovision pre-selection counts as "winning a major music competition", but I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Please note that Google hitcounts are not a reliable indicator of notability or lack thereof. Demiurge 19:49, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment this people is a JESC-only singers. as non notable.--Adbangse 19:56, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - having won a Belgium-wide competition and seemingly placed in the top 10 in his home country, he's notable. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep Only 256 Google hits is rather non-notable, but top selling record in a country IS notable. More deserving of an article than 99% of the garage bands and amateur musicians putting articles about themselves and their albums on Wikipedia. Edison 00:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep (full disclosure: I created the article). I waited until I was sure he could have an article. Winning the Belgian preselection for the Junior Eurovision Song Contest which was on national television in Belgium was what put him on my radar for an article, but reaching number 1 in the Flemish Top 10 and coming in reasonably high in multiple other Belgian music charts is what makes him pass WP:MUSIC and made me decide to write the article. Google hits alone is not a good indicator of encyclopedic value. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:35, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

A more detailed look into WP:MUSIC: With those chart ratings (#1) I have no doubt the gold certified record is forthcoming in weeks.(#2, crystal-ballery for now) He was also the subject of multiple news publications (#5) in for example national newspapers. He placed in a major music competition (#9). The Junior Eurovision Song Contest is televized to millions of people in multiple countries. And his chart positions cannot be possible with him getting air time on national radio (#11). By my count that's four points on which he passes WP:MUSIC. Website publications are scarce, but I used every one I could find to source the article. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - I never "!vote" per in anything in Wikipedia, but its all covered above so, "Keep per Mr MacGyver" :)  Glen  12:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Not notable? I've heard his song in Australia! (just checking WP:Music) It seems to qualify under 2 criterion:

• Has had a charted hit on any national music chart, in at least one large or medium-sized country (Belgium)
• Has won or placed in a major music competition (Belgian pre-selections of the Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2006)

Add to this that he is only 8 years old!

RobBrisbane 10:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete until he reaches the age of majority in Belgium. 69.140.173.15 21:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Is there a reason for this unusual requirement? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

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