Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thieves in Black
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep Eluchil404 13:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Thieves in Black
A Greek anarchist gang does not deserve its own encyclopedia article. In other words, it is not notable. Mitsos 22:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Darn those anarchists! How did they get reliable sources to cover their hijinx? But they did. Notable, verifiable, done, kept. "Undeserved" is your value judgement, and you can keep it to yourself in the future, thanks. — coelacan talk — 23:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep I'll remain more polite than the above user but I'm really not sure what the problem with this article is. Pascal.Tesson 00:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy keep as the nominator has not provided a valid argument for deletion based in policy. (As noted in the nomination above, "does not deserve article" is an opinion and an inappropriate value judgement based in no Wikipedia policy or guideline.) --Dhartung | Talk 02:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm looking at it right now. It says "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, reliable published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself." That is exactly what the references in the article show. — coelacan talk — 09:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- The source in the external links section doesn't even mention "thieves in black". The other two sources come from Greek newspapers, so this gang was never the subject of English-language works. Also note that the google hits of "thieves in black" are extremely low. I can assure that even in Greece, if you ask the people in the street noone will know about this gang. Mitsos 09:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- Where in the policy does it say that sources must be in English? Otto4711 13:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- The group has been dubbed the “Thieves in Black” because the 15 or so people thought to comprise the group wear black clothes during robberies. Ekathimerini bogdan 10:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- The source in the external links section doesn't even mention "thieves in black". The other two sources come from Greek newspapers, so this gang was never the subject of English-language works. Also note that the google hits of "thieves in black" are extremely low. I can assure that even in Greece, if you ask the people in the street noone will know about this gang. Mitsos 09:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm looking at it right now. It says "a topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, reliable published works, whose sources are independent of the subject itself." That is exactly what the references in the article show. — coelacan talk — 09:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Keep - sources don't need to be in English; only the article does. We can assume good faith that the articles are valid references. Tarinth 19:41, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - see also Anti-State Justice, nominated for deletion at the same time. - N1h1l 22:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- The problem is not the sources, it's that the group is non-notable. Mitsos 12:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep bogdan 10:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
