Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Theodore Keep
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The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 17:33, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Theodore Keep
The article does not establish notability. A recording engineer. Even if he recorded multi-platinum albums, a recording engineer is not notable. RickK 05:17, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Google returns 58 hits for "theodore keep" "liberty records". The article does not establish notability - did he do something cool like Delia Derbyshire? I shall now refrain from making the obvious pun about Theodore Delete. -- Brhaspati (talkcontribs) 05:29, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)
- Well, one of us had to make that joke, and I'm glad you took the bullet for me.
Delete. Not all names appearing on some sort of album are notable. -R. fiend 06:56, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC) - Delete, not notable. Megan1967 09:20, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Ted Keep was not just some engineer, but the one responsible for the The Chipmunks (the name Theoodore is not coincidental). As a co-founder of Liberty Records and multiple Grammy winner, the notability is there. --iMb~Mw 10:19, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep as per IMeowbot. --Jacobw 10:53, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Grammy winner with a Chipmunk named after him. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:01, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Keep and Expand to include notability as described by IMeowbot. Barno 16:22, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: This guy was not "responsible" for the Chipmunks, but another guy at the record label who the Theodore character was named after. He didn't create the character, or voice him. The very best he deserves is a redirect to Liberty Records, which says more about him than this article does. -R. fiend 19:39, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep as per User:IMeowbot. —RaD Man (talk) 02:35, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. This page [1] says that Theodore Keep (chief engineer) was one of the three creators of Alvin and the Chipmunks which were named for the three creators. They won Grammy awards in the awards' first two years (1959 and 1960 for 1958 and 1959 work), both years for "Best Engineered Record - Non-Classical". The first year's "The Chipmunk Song" also won Grammys for Best Album for Children and Best Comedy Performance. A bit of Googling (including "Grammy" with Ted or Theodore Keep) answered the notability question easily for this one. Barno 03:05, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Um, no, it doesn't say that. It says they were created by Ross Bagdasarian, and one of them was named for Theodore Keep. Also, note that the site you linked to is a wikipedia mirror, so you'd be better off just citing the Alvin and the Chipmunks page, which isn't the best source for writing wikipedia articles. This guy was the engineer, which is not exactly a terribly notable profession. Can you name one famous sound engineer? I don't think we even have an article on that profession, specifically. A redirect says alot more than this article does. -R. fiend 04:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Can you name one famous sound engineer? — For some reason, the name "Paddy Kingsland" immediately springs to mind. Uncle G 17:41, 2005 Mar 11 (UTC)
- Anyway, with the new rewrite I'm changing my vote to keep, not because he was an executive at Liberty Records, or because Theodore the Chipmunk was named for him, but because he evidently contributed several innovations to sound recording. However, there is a slightly ambiguous statement that is important. The article states that he "provided the synchronization process that allowed Ross Bagdasarian to combine his speed-doubled voice technique...", now did he just provide it, or did he invent it? If he hit the button on the effects component that made the sound, therefore "providing" the effect, that's hardly terribly notable. If he invented the process then that's different. -R. fiend 18:10, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Um, no, it doesn't say that. It says they were created by Ross Bagdasarian, and one of them was named for Theodore Keep. Also, note that the site you linked to is a wikipedia mirror, so you'd be better off just citing the Alvin and the Chipmunks page, which isn't the best source for writing wikipedia articles. This guy was the engineer, which is not exactly a terribly notable profession. Can you name one famous sound engineer? I don't think we even have an article on that profession, specifically. A redirect says alot more than this article does. -R. fiend 04:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- keep' and expand Yuckfoo 02:04, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Keep the rewritten version. JamesMLane 03:23, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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