Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The solaris bug situation

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Carlossuarez46 03:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The solaris bug situation

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This is about a perceived effect of a "synchronistic phenomenon perceived to take place between the 1972 Russian film Solaris and The Lightning Bug Situation's 2007 CD... ", mainly posted on MySpacepages, by some fans of the band. The band itself could possibly warrant an article, but no-one has written this (as I can see.) If they had an article, this effect could be a section there, but being a perceived effect shouldn't warrant an article by itself. The creators claim since a similar effect for Pink Floyd (Dark Side of the Rainbow)warrant an article their bands similar effect should warrant an article too, but this is faulty logic- Pink Floyd is a mega-band. My first instinct was db- |hoax/sillyness to promote NN or near-NN -band here, but I guess it's not clear-cut enough for a speedy delete. Greswik 20:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Brian Miller (the front man of The Lightning Bug Situation and partly the subject of this article) co-wrote two songs on Jolie Holland's last album, wrote the music for one of the songs on her first album, and appears on all three of her albums. To me, if Jolie Holland qualifies for Wiki, then so does this article. Mint Seawalls 20:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

  • delete totally unencyclopedic, a pitiful mash-up of nonsense and fan cruft. Pete.Hurd 21:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

A Google of "Yeats is Greats," Brian Miller's last album, shows that it "Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network," as per the Wiki Notability guidelines. Also, a Google of both "Yeats is Greats" and "A Leaf; A Stream" separately shows that they were both "frequently covered in publications devoted to a notable sub-culture" as per Wiki Notability guidelines as well.

If I have to write a dang Lightning Bug Situation article I will! But this, to me, was a much more interesting phenomenon than some write up about a band.

Mint Seawalls 21:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Here are two appearances in the San Francisco Chronicle: here and here —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mint Seawalls (talk • contribs) 22:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. The only reliable sources offered in the article are ones that explicitly do not mention the "Solaris Bug Situation." Nor do the two linked in the preceding comment here. Fails WP:V. Deor 22:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Dang! I was just trying to show noteworthy-ness. Wow. I had never written an article for Wiki before (though have used it countless times)--and I thought I had written a pretty cool article--but I had no idea the wrath that was going to come down! Mint Seawalls 22:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC) -- please dont think of it as wrath, just read WP:FIRST and try on something more substantial. DGG (talk) 04:10, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep The reliable sources in the article itself do mention the Solaris Bug Situation effect, just not by name.

Mint Seawalls 22:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete. Per this page, reliable sources are not blogs and MySpace pages, and the only sources provided anywhere (in this AfD or in the article) which don't fall into those categories don't seem to mention the subject of the article. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

This probably has nothing to do with Wikipedia, but the whole reason I wrote this article at all was because I actually tried the "Solaris Bug Situation" effect--playing "A Leaf; A Stream" while watching Solaris with the sound off--and it actually worked! Really well! But alas unfortunately I'm not a reliable source... Mint Seawalls 02:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete — unreferenced essay. Wikipedia is not the place to post your personal theories and research. --Agüeybaná 02:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete You're joking. Which policies does this actually pass? (Incidentally, this must be a bloody long album if it's "synchronised" with Tarkovsky's Solaris - our article says the film's running time is 165 minutes). --Folantin 08:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
    • In fairness, I'd guess the idea is to play the album a couple of times. Even "Dark Side of the Moon" has to be played at least twice over before it covers the length of "Wizard of Oz". BigHaz - Schreit mich an 08:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - this doesn't make any sense, and even if it did, it's still non-notable. Moreschi Talk 10:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete web page material. JJL 17:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.