Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The awkward turtle

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The result was delete.   jj137 (talk) 01:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The awkward turtle

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Non-notable hand gesture, no sources to show any notability. Prod removed by anon, bringing to AfD per procedure. Wildthing61476 (talk) 21:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete - This is more something that should go on UrbanDictionary.com. The style that the article was currently written in doesn't really help (the sign is often used "between teenagers." ... come on!). - SuperOctave (talk)
  • Delete - Looks dangerously like a thing made up one day. Goochelaar (talk) 21:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC) Weak keep - Perhaps my opinion was a bit rash. Definitely not a thing made up one day (or perhaps so, but everything must have been made up one day or another, even the word "cellar door"): there are several Ghits, mostly not-so-notable, YouTube videos and the like, but perhaps these could qualify as a source: [1] and [2], while here there is a column titled "Awkward turtle". Goochelaar (talk) 23:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Clearly WP:NFT - only notability assertion is that it is popular with teenagers. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 22:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete While I've heard of this, I don't believe notability can yet be established. -Verdatum (talk) 23:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

comment If someone could produce at least one reference to establish notability, keep. Otherwise it's a clear-cut case of original research.Beeblbrox (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment If my memory serves me correctly, the gesture being described is actually the American Sign Language sign for the word "sea turtle" (not to be confused for the sign for the terrestrial turtle, which is completely different). I don't so much know about this gesture's notability aside from this, though I have seen it used in the context described. A quick Google search turns up this source which says: "During an uncomfortable silence, someone will mimic a turtle with his or her hands. They'll put their right hand fully on top of the back of the left, both hands pointed away, thumbs wiggling. And, with a straight face, they'll say, 'Awkward Turtle.'" Searching Google News for all dates turns up varying amounts of coverage, mostly from college newspapers, from around the country. LaMenta3 (talk) 01:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge into type of gesture as "Awkward turtle." A lot can be removed, and because there's already a list of gestures, I think it belongs in that list. Lockesdonkey (talk) 16:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Delete This isn't an encyclopaedic topic. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 07:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep This gesture is about as common among young people as a high-five or finger snaps. While the mainstream media rarely covers emerging trends like this, it definitely is something that someone from the general population could witness or hear about and want to know more about-- hence, it's definitely encyclopedic. I agree that more sources should be added, however- perhaps a notable blog has mentioned the phenomenon. Also, what about the name? Wikipedia articles usually omit "the", right? Zatchmort (talk) 20:18, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.