Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Wenlock Arms
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The result of the debate was no consensus to delete -- Francs2000 | Talk 16:23, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The Wenlock Arms
Pretty close to an ad for another London pub (there are a few of those, no?). I see nothing special here. Won some CAMRA awards, but they're not exactly the Victoria Cross. The section on live music and who plays and when really is and ad. If anyone can point out anything about this pub that's at all remarkable I could consider changing my vote. -R. fiend 15:12, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Shame really, because it's a nicely formatted article and even has a picture. Nevertheless, I have to agree on the nnness. So delete, although I could be persuaded otherwise. Agentsoo 16:41, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Rather than delete, I'd like to see this transwikied to a book on English pubs. But I bet a case could be made to keep this page as a historical site. Is it a protected site, by any chance? — RJH 17:56, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- You mean is the pub a historical site? I don't see why it would be; it's a pub. 1835 isn't even that old for a pub that survived the Blitz. If there is a wikipubs or something then, fine, put it there, but if there isn't one and unless you feel like starting one, I'm not sure exactly how your vote should be interpreted. -R. fiend 18:08, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Buildings built before 1840 are Grade II listed by default. CalJW 21:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- That's what, 500,000 buildings in the UK alone? Are we to practically double the size of wikipedia with articles on individual pubs, houses, etc that are of some slight architectural interest? I've been to many pubs in London, some of which were older than this. I'm really not convinsed this is special. -R. fiend 01:13, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
- That isn't true. The oldest portion of the house I live in was constructed prior to 1840 and it isn't listed; there are ca. 20 listed buildings in Cheddar I believe, not all of them date from before 1840, and there are a lot more buildings older than that date in the village. Thryduulf 01:47, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
- Buildings built before 1840 are Grade II listed by default. CalJW 21:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- You mean is the pub a historical site? I don't see why it would be; it's a pub. 1835 isn't even that old for a pub that survived the Blitz. If there is a wikipubs or something then, fine, put it there, but if there isn't one and unless you feel like starting one, I'm not sure exactly how your vote should be interpreted. -R. fiend 18:08, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, failing that merge with Pubs in London or somewhere. Kappa 20:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Old enough for me. CalJW 21:05, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- Keep It has enough historical information about the Wenlock Brewery to be useful. It is also very well known in London. I might lose the Jazz and Blues section though, as non-encyclopaedic. There arent that many Georgian pubs in good condition in London either - most are Victorian, so I might add more information about the architecture. Justinc 22:12, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.