Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The War of the Ember

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete - the consensus here is that without violating the policies which state that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball or a place to publish original research, not enough information can be given on this book at present. If anyone wants a copy of this restored to their user space (as User:Swirlex suggested) to work on until sources are available and it can be restored to the mainspace without falling afoot of these policies, I'll be happy to do this, so let me know on my talk page. - Zeibura ( talk ) 03:44, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The War of the Ember

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Assuming the information on the page (and page Guardians of Ga'Hoole is correct, there is no verifiable information about this book at this time. No release date, no plot; nothing other than a mention of the title by the author. Per WP:CRYSTAL, there's no need for it to have a page right now. Gromlakh (talk) 22:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • "Please do not remove this page, it does give the infromation that the 15th book may not be called Guardians of Ga'Hoole: The War of the Ember, and there is a chance it will be called so, but in that time, the page will grow longer and with more information. Thank you androo123
  • Delete unless there are more sources than these out there; at the moment it seems that nothing verifiable that can be said about the book other than its title, and that's already covered in Guardians of Ga'Hoole. The rest of the article is just vague speculation, which we don't do per WP:CRYSTAL and WP:OR. Of course, the article can be recreated in future when there are some more concrete facts available. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 22:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes but it can be useful information soon, and why recreate it? It would be much simpler to keep it until it is actually said by the author that the 15th book is to be called other, then the article is to be deleted, if the article is kept, viewers may have an idea of what the 15th book is etc... androo123
  • There is also a note of the author that she will write the book after or during the 14th book, IF YOU WANT TO SEE A COMFIMATION... http://www.kathrynlasky.com/ READ THE LAST PARAGRAPHAndroo123 (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC) so does this mean I get to remove the ugly banner on the page?
Reply - If you are referring to the AFD notice on the article, no you cannot remove it. It will be dealth with in due time when an admin closes this discussion with a decision. As for the confirmation from the author, all this essentially tells us is that she has decided on the name of the book. Period. I fail to see how that provides sufficient material to build an article. She hasn't even written the book yet, and there is not such anticipation of it that reliable sources such as newspapers have written about it. -- Whpq (talk) 20:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Well this whole discussion was about just the name of the book, sure the information, such as the plot of the story, the cover-page, the ISBN etc... but we do know that in time the page will grow, just because there isn't that much information, doesn't mean we should delete the page, just to recreate it again in a month or so, just remove the deletion Template, and put a "This wikipage is a Fictional story stub". Androo123 (talk) 21:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)


I don't know but three-fourth's of me thinks that an administrator should delete this page. It does contain information but it doesn't have anything to do with the plot. Most people who go on Wikipedia and see that page will want to know what it is about, not when it will come out or what book came before it or who wrote it. I would gladly agree with someone else if they give me two reasons. (Strix Struma (talk) 03:35, 27 January 2008 (UTC))

Caution

My user page now has a rough copy for a complete article. It is not much (once we add external links etc..), but I think I gathered enough information for an article. Please check it out on my user page, write a comment about it on the discussion page please!!! Androo123 (talk) 02:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC).

Archive?I don't think we should continue editing this page until the book is out. Then we could collect better information. I could even put its contents in my sandbox then delete The War of the Ember and bring it back when the time is right. Swirlex (talk) 18:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.