Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Thesis

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, merging possible as an editorial decision that wouldn't require an AFD. W.marsh 14:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Thesis

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This article does not meet WP:MUSIC standards and also has no articles linking. Idioma 01:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep several reviews under google search for The Ambassador The Thesis. Carried by amazon.com. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
WP:MUSIC does not list being sold on Amazon.com as establishing notability; they carry many items created by non notable artists and writers. I could not find any notable reviews of the album. Idioma 19:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, WjBscribe 23:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
  • keep for now - if the artist survives afd, then they pass notability. if a band is notable, their albums are as well. the_undertow talk 00:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - I'll agree with undertow, if the artist passes, this album should too. But I'd also like to see some more info on this album rather than just the track listing (i.e. a little summary at the beginning, "The thesis is The Ambassador's 2nd full length album, it was produced by...") - HammerHeadHuman (talk)(work) 00:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment/Request This AFD should be shut down and the article linked with the band's AFD, since per WP:MUSIC if the band is notable there albumn will be--Dacium 00:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per "the undertow". Sr13 (T|C) ER 02:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. In principle I suppose if this person survives AfD then the albums could be listed, but there's nothing here but a track listing. In any case, appears to fail WP:MUSIC. But I agree with Dacium that this AfD will rise or fall with the artist's AFD. bikeable (talk) 05:05, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete Per Bikeable's comments. Also per nomination. Jmlk17 05:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment/Request I concur with Dacium that this depends on the status of the artists. Section four of WP:MUSIC says Though this guideline is somewhat controversial, the general consensus on notability of albums is that if the musician or ensemble that made them is considered notable, then their albums have sufficient notability to have individual articles on Wikipedia.JodyB 11:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep I agree with the_undertow. If the band is notable, so is their album. It should definitely be improved. mako (talk•contribs) 14:39, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Week keep pending artist's evaluation. Keep if the artist stays, delete if the artist doesn't. // 3R1C 16:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: Not all records from all acts are notable, for notability means standing out from the average. Some artists make average or failed records, and some artists are only significant themselves for a single record. To try to borrow fame to such an extent and lend it to every effort is reckless. Utgard Loki 17:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge info back to the artist's article. That's probably a better place for it at this point. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Tony Fox. As long as the article remains content-free (nothing but a track listing), there really isn't any reason for it to be separate from the artist's article. Assuming the artist is found notable (I think he is . . . mildly), then if someone later wants to add some actual content about the album itself, it could be split into its own article at that time, per the WP:MUSIC guideline cited by JodyB. Mwelch 22:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep You have elicited images of a beat-boxing jesus in my imagination, and for this I thank you. --Infrangible 01:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect. Nothing but a track listing: arguably speedy-deletable as {{db-empty}}. --Calton | Talk 01:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.