Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Serenade Surrender

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 06:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Serenade Surrender

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Does not appear to pass WP:MUSIC; unsigned band, only reference material I was able to find (besides MySpace pages) were brief mentions in local newspaper articles (e.g. [1]). Already speedied once under title The serenade surrender.

Also nominating:

  • Back To The Basement

an article about the band's only and self-produced EP for basically the same reasons; unable to satisfy notability and verifiability guidelines. ~Matticus UC 14:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


GET OFF THE BANDS BACK!!!! THEY ARE JUST A BUNCH OF BROKE KIDS TRYING TO PLAY MUSIC!!!!
What's the point of being able to update Wikipedia ourselves if you guys just want to constantly delete our pages because you can't verify the bands info??????—Preceding unsigned comment added by Modup118 (talk • contribs)

You've answered your own question there - because the information is unverifiable. Please read Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. ~Matticus UC 20:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


Wow...so my crappy little band bothers you. Thats my whole plan...Im gonna bring down Wikipedia by posting innacurate information about my local band. Come on guys...I told our story like it is. I didnt embelish and say we were signed to some major label or touring in huge million dollar buses. Why would I make up the story that we are a crappy band that's broke and just trying to get by? What kind of lie is that? Why would I want to make up that story? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Modup118 (talk • contribs) 22:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not only the non-verifiability of the information, it's the non-notability of it. Make it big, win some Grammys, become a major influence in the music world, and the band becomes worthy of a Wikipedia entry. But right now, they are not. Sorry 'bout that... Marjaliisa (talk) 22:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


Hey Wikipedia get off TSS's balls for the love of all things !!! I played bass for the band for a short stint and these kids are busting their asses to get their name out there and for you to take this bulls@#t action against them is lamer then the crap in high schools.

For real give some kids a damn break and look beyond the fact they are a newer unsigned group and maybe help them get out there not take your power of the "interweb" and piss on their fire.

Get off their backs and just leave them alone and if they make it big you can say you were there for them but if not you can say you gave them a chance.

Respects,

George "Dark Soul" Wiggins Team Apocolypse Fight Team —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.203.9.225 (talk) 22:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
What are you guys rent a cops for Wiki here? This site is a reference site not a site for you guys to deem what is and what is not worth searching for. TSS would love to win Grammy's but w/ out Wikipedia's help I don't know if we can do that...Im kidding of course.

Note this....if you guys shut this posting down when the day comes that you want to make a page for TSS we will block it and tell all our fans to edit with words like poopie and crap. Is that you guys want? The biggest band in the world to have the words poopie and crap all over their listing? Yea...I dont think so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Modup118 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Guy, please read WP:MUSIC and see if you qualify. I'd say you don't. I wish you the best of luck in a very tough business, but right now, the band isn't notable... Marjaliisa (talk) 23:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete both - obviously. Rarely is there a more clear-cut case of a band coming to promote itself without realizing that that's not what Wikipedia is for. I wish you guys luck, but the bottom line (not just for bands, but for any subject) is that you have to prove the subject's importance before it qualifies for a Wikipedia article. --Hyperbole (talk) 23:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Delete- There hasn't been any notability established, therefore it should be deleted. Remember, Wikipedia is NOT an indiscriminate collection of information about a small high school band that no one has ever heard of. Like other users have posted, get around, win some important awards, have a big hit, do something notable, because there's thousands of other high school bands out there just like you guys, and their simply not notable. I'm also saddened to see the blatantly hostile attitude towards Wikipedia's procedures and that you would vandalize articles for no apparent reason, other than the fact that your band isn't recognizable, nor does it have an verifiable facts. So, once again, my advice is to go out there, sing, have fun, enjoy life, and hey, if one day you make it big, or even just partway there, and I'm confidant that Wikipedia will be waiting there with open arms. Heck, I'll even write the article myself, but for the time being, my opinion is that the article should be deleted. American Patriot 1776 (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete both as non-notable per WP:BAND. tomasz. 19:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
  • I gotta say wikipedia is filled with deusche bags. You guys are like the internet gestapo, but worse. I'd really like to know how much space this little page is wasting on your server right now. And you know, this "talk" page is probably wasting more space than our band and album page combined. What's the harm in letting us have a 2 measly little pages. I think you guys need to go to our myspace and listen to our cd, because obviously you haven't. If you have and you still don't like us, then you guys must be freaking deaf. I hope you guys enjoy making 8 bucks an hour, sitting in a hot, stuffy room deleting peoples pages for kicks and giggles, you interet fags.
  • Delete This a highly un-notable band and higly un-notable album, both should be deleted as soon as possible.TheNextOne (talk) 22:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.