Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Phoenix Co-op

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Petros471 13:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Phoenix Co-op

A short unsourced article about a non-notable building, only one link to it. ColinFine 23:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Hello, please don't delete this. The Phoenix Coop his great historical importance to the larger Madison Community Cooperative movement in Madison, WI. The house is also registered with the State of Wisconsin's historical buildings.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.226.134.167 (talk • contribs)
I tried finding evidence of this at http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/hp/buildings/ but didn't find anything. Do you have any link demonstrating the historic importance of this building? --Xyzzyplugh 13:10, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
You have to do and advanced search under Dane County, then type "636 Langdon" under the address. That will bring up the record, showing that it's part of the Langdon Historic District in downtown Madison. More importantly, while I agree W.P. is not a directory, nor is Phoenix Coop just a building with 26 people living in it- it is a community. Nottingham Coop's article wasn't much more developed than this one when it was started in February, and now it is fully developed, showing its place and value in Madison. A previous 2004 Nottingham article was started and deleted- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Nottingham_co-op- Nottingham's entry arguably lost a year or two of potential development in that. I will try to get Phoenix members interested.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.222.62.247 (talk • contribs)
I've tried doing that search every way I can think of, and can't find anything. I don't think "advanced search" is the right option, but I tried that as well as the other search options. Ok, I found it. It lists some info about the building, and then says, "This inventory card is merely a historical record of a property and may have inaccurate or misleading data. Inclusion in the inventory conveys no special status. Please read our Disclaimer for more details". The disclaimer includes the following text, "Inclusion in the Architecture and History Inventory conveys no special status or advantage; this inventory is merely a record of the property. Many properties are included merely for comparative purposes. Such included properties are not automatically eligible for any funding or other assistance". Link to the disclaimer: http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/ahi/disclaimer.asp
In other words, inclusion on this website is not evidence of notability, merely evidence that this building exists on this property, and little different than a phone book entry. Wikipedia is not the white pages.--Xyzzyplugh 14:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, not a directory, not the white pages... if you don't want to believe Phoenix is a historic building, fine- it is, there's a plaque outside the building that proves it, but I won't go out of my way here. As I said, more than important than the building is the community, the hundreds of members they've had over the years- I've sent word on MCC's listserve to see if anyone wants to develop. Let's see what happens...—Preceding unsigned comment added by Molybdenumtop (talk • contribs)
  • Do not delete this page. Phoenix has played a notable role in Madison Co-op house history, but the article stub needs time for this to be entered. There are simply not enoiugh housing co-os in the world to say that any one of them is non-notable, and Phoenix has, in fact, survived not one but a few crises that reflect on the history of madison co-ops as a whole (again, give this time to be typed in. It will be. I will have to stand in line to get my bit in, if anything). Also, as far as madison campus life goes, this is the most immediately viisble co-op of them all--the otehrs hug the lake, along the tangled mess of streets that exist in that place--not invisible, but not daily sites like 636 langdon either--and the Co-ops that are not along lake Mendota are generally along less-travveled thoughourfars and are not buildings that stand out teh same way)--which touches on one valuable thing that Wikipedia does in the long run--it is npossible, at times, to undserstand how notbale things in a town appear or are known to people who are really in that town. I haven't even touched on the subject of notable alumni... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clown in black and yellow (talk • contribs)
  • Delete. As currently written, article does not provide sources, online or otherwise, that satisfy WP:V. --Satori Son 04:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.