Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Philippine Collegian
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep (non-admin closure), as per consensus. Ecoleetage (talk) 00:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC) fmt fixed by TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 02:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Philippine Collegian
Non-notable student/school newspaper, no indepedent RS for notability...just another student paper. Cquan (after the beep...) 08:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Weak keep if the claims in the article can be sourced to something besides a tripod page as it appears to have a history. This one appears stronger than the other two listed currently. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 13:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Strong keep. The Collegian is arguably the most prominent college/university paper in the Philippines...more so because it's the student publication of the country's leading universities (along with Ateneo de Manila University, de La Salle University and University of Sto. Tomas...I digress here, but UP is considered the university in the Phils., even more than the other universities combined). In addition, some major Filipino politicians, writers, journalists and political activists were on the editorial board of the Collegian while they were students of this school. What might make this article more interesting is including more details of its involvement in the Philippine martial law period, where some of its editors were detained and pursued by Pres. Marcos and his allies, though admittedly this would mean an extra trip to the National Archives of the Philippines just to get photographs/microfilm copies of any news articles about The Collegian's involvement in Philippine history. --- Tito Pao (talk) 09:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- STRONG KEEP. Cquan, you maybe a deletionist as you claim on your user page, but may be you ought to to be careful where you slap your AFD's. "Just another student paper?" As if those from URoch are any better. The Philippine Collegian page is fine as it is, and for you to simply put it up on AFD just because "its another student paper" is being irresponsible. --Eaglestorm (talk) 17:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Comment/Keep. Actually, it does appear notable...which it did not when I tagged the article for AfD since it had absolutely no RS. So I'm even going for keep now. And btw, please remain calm...good articles have nothing to fear from AfD or deletionist editors like me. They end up having an even stronger spot on Wikipedia. Please try to keep your comments on topic. Thanks. Cquan (after the beep...) 19:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. A publication of a major university of the Philippines. Nominating based on being just another school paper is an example of systemic bias and downright irresponsibility. Starczamora (talk) 05:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Strong keep, per Tito Pao and Starczamora. It's like tagging the The Harvard Crimson for deletion. The article though can stand for some improvement, I'll try to help out in that respect. -- Anyo Niminus (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Keep for the reasons explained. (However, I will parenthetically add that "some major Filipino politicians, writers, journalists and political activists were on the editorial board of the Collegian while they were students of this school" is a weak argument. notability is not contagious; notable folks have been involved with many non-notable things in their lives. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.