Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Phantom Buzzer Game
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep --JForget 23:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Phantom Buzzer Game
This game is not especially notable in the NBA, and the way the article is written, especially the last part, makes it seem like it was copied from the article's only source. Plus, this article was made by a suspected sock puppet. Noble Story (talk) 11:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Keep. First official protest upheld by the NBA establishes notability. Does need sources, however. Malinaccier (talk) 13:36, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- There aren't any sources, besides the book already referenced, which is more of a kid's book than anything else. A relevant Google such as "Atlanta Hawks Chicago Bulls Bob Rakel" yields nothing beyond mirrors of this article. Noble Story (talk) 13:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- There are newspaper sources, so verification isn't the issue here. (There's a lot more from the Chicago Tribune archives.) Zagalejo^^^ 19:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- There aren't any sources, besides the book already referenced, which is more of a kid's book than anything else. A relevant Google such as "Atlanta Hawks Chicago Bulls Bob Rakel" yields nothing beyond mirrors of this article. Noble Story (talk) 13:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Comments I'm not sure if anyone really describes this game as "The Phantom Buzzer Game" (that was probably the chapter title in the Allan Zullo book), but this was indeed the first upheld protest in NBA history, according to old Chicago Tribune newspaper articles. Still, it's a relatively minor incident in the grand scheme of things. It might be worth a brief mention in the Chicago Bulls article, which has very little content on the pre-Jordan era Bulls. Zagalejo^^^ 19:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Merge with Chicago Bulls as it is probably important in the history of that team. As an article of itself it doesn't appear to be notable. --Deadly∀ssassin 19:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- keep include newspaper stories and maybe stub it (no need for so many sections with so little info). It is fine as a separate stub. It certainly doesn't need to be clogging up another article. Protonk (talk) 19:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 22:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fabrictramp (talk) 22:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep "first upheld protest in NBA history" is an assertation of notability, and refs do exist. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Definitely an important part of basketball history that is deserving of an article. Electricbassguy (talk) 11:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
