Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Organisation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete based on WP:V, WP:NOR and does not establish notability separate from the movie. —Doug Bell ^talk 07:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Organisation

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Unnecessary original research and pure speculation on an extremely minor plot detail from the movie Casino Royale (2006) Eqdoktor 07:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - it's already out in several countries according to Casino Royale (2006 film), so I wouldn't call it speculation. Perhaps one of you could see the movie? MER-C 09:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• Comment - Thats the whole point! The originator of the article sat down and watched the movie and dashed out an article on "The Organisation". There is NO independent verification of the facts (whatever little there is) in the article. No one is even sure if the "The Organisation" is a noun (collective) or a proper noun (real name). The only link cited in the article does not back up anything and in the typical hollywood style confirms nothing. The whole article violates Wikipedia:No original research policy - its based on just watching the movie with no verifiable facts to back it up. There is nothing holding this article up. --Eqdoktor 09:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Having seen the movie, it's of some importance, but not really a major factor. There's no indication that "The Organisation" is its proper name; it was SMERSH (James Bond) in the novel, but since the film is set in the modern day, the Soviet counterintelligence organization was replaced by a terrorist organization. The article on Bond 22 suggests, though without confirmation, that this organization might be a revamped SPECTRE. I suspect that there will be little to say (and few reliable sources to use to say it) until that next film comes out in a year or two, or at least until it starts to be promoted, hence my !vote. Shimeru 09:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The cited source does not support the article's claims. I have seen the movie but I haven't found any reviews or other published sources stating that James Bond's adversaries were part of an entity using the name "The Organisation". --Metropolitan90 22:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete We don't need pages on every single aspect of every single movie, especially where the movie provides no encyclopedic information about the aspect we can use. The article is mostly speculation and unnecessary. If the organization grows in importance in the next Bond or more encyclopedic information is provided about it, feel free. +Hexagon1 ^(t) 00:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, Lack of any serious information, prone to speculation. Whatever is notable should be mentioned at Casino Royale. The idea of the organisation having an article should be reexamined come November 2008 when Bond 22 is released. K1Bond007 06:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Insufficient to warrant it's own articel. If something major comes of it in future films that *maybe*. Peregrine 07:13, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.