Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Old Kings

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, discounting WP:ILIKEIT-type arguments. Sandstein 09:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Old Kings

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Notability concern not addressed since June. A look at Amazon.com shows one release on a named label -- thus not enough to pass WP:MUSIC. Please see Talk:The Old Kings for comment by de-prodder. Delete unless non-trivial reliable independent sources are found that we could use to write an encyclopedia article. Pan Dan 16:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

1. keep Carhonda 16:11, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

1. keep. Or should every band in Category: Singaporean music be deemed non-notable by definition and deleted (no, that's not a suggestion, it's a complaint against the current version of WP:MUSIC, which is a good tool for making it hard for future researchers to find information on a lot of elements of culture when said elements no longer exist)? Strangelv 23:17, 16 December 2006 (UTC), who unfortunately lacks the time and health to even find every such article in danger, let alone vote to keep them.

Neutral. Actually, if you look at the artist's web site[1], it shows that two albums have been released on the same label as Pan Dan found on Amazon which therefore might meet criteria #5. However, the label, Jade Palace Records seems to be a minor label at best. If someone can show that it is a notable label, even if just in Singapore, I would support keeping this article. Ccscott 10:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's the primary notability criterion, and then there's the ancillary criteria of WP:MUSIC, which only indicate possible non-trivial media coverage. In every case, ultimately, I think we have to check the primary notability criterion, so there are enough reliable sources to write a verifiable article. So even if this band passes WP:MUSIC by a hair, I would still say delete if it fails WP:N. Pan Dan 13:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. The discography establishes notability to me, even though it might be hard to prove that a Singapore-based band passes WP:MUSIC. I don't have ready access to the media that would be most likely to report on the group. JamesMLane t c 08:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.