Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Metal Observer

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete for lack of verifiable notability. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 01:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Metal Observer

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Despite having been flagged, notability has not been established, whilst the only sources are from the subject itself; appears to simply be an online fanzine Blackmetalbaz (talk) 14:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• Delete I looked but couldn't find any reliable, secondary sources to establish notability. --jonny-mt 16:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. —Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

• Comment This is probably one of the most popular online metal review sites in English. I don't know how to find Alexa ratings, but that might be of interest. Chubbles (talk) 21:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Comment It may well be, but that is irrelevant. I can't find any third party sources. It may be popular but at the moment it's just an Internet fansite. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:18, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

• I'd just like to guard against a purge of all citations of this website on Wikipedia if this AfD closes as delete. This is a likely, but inappropriate, possible consequence. Chubbles (talk) 00:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Obviously whether the fansite deserves its own article is a separate issue from whether it should be used as a reliable source. As it happens, if it is in fact just a fansite, I do not believe it should be used as a source. It's not like we have a shortage of (non-self published) print media for heavy metal reviews. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.