Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Medic Droid (band)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus. The article is kept without prejudice to re-submission. --Shirahadasha (talk) 06:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Medic Droid (band)

The Medic Droid (band) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Related AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J0HNNY

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Does not assert notability in any way. Claims of an international tour aren't backed up by any reliable sources; a search for sources turned up bupkis. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:MUSIC. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. -RiverHockey (talk) 00:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • I found one Google News listing for a show in New York, and they have shows in Arizona, New Mexico and California listed on their Myspace page. But, I don't find any other chatter about the band that would classify as WP:RS, so it's kind of hard for them to meet WP:MUSIC at the moment. Delete Tony Fox (arf!) 05:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep: Charted on the iTunes top 50 dance chart. Therefore Meets criterion 2. News article on the band from MediaPredict and Arkansas Times, so probably also meets criterion 1. Snellios (talk) 00:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Ward3001 (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Above media references are either trivial or not from a reliable source. iTunes chart is not from a reliable source, either; even if it's correct, I don't know that #26 on the iTunes Dance Chart qualifies as a hit. Fails WP:MUSIC. Seems like they're bubbling under in the hype department which may or may not see them breaking through (i.e. past MySpace popularity into Popular IRL)—if they happen, the article can easily be re-created. Precious Roy (talk) 01:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - WP:MUSIC is very clear. If any of the criteria provided in the guideline are met, then the article meets notability. Criterion #2 is "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart." Per Snellios below, the band at one time ranked #26 on iTunes top 50 dance chart for the U.S., and that's a national music chart. Note that once notability for the article has been established, Notability guidelines do not directly limit article content. Nobody below bothered to actually add the reference to the article, and so I'll transfer it from this AfD discussion myself. The Transhumanist 10:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment Controversial non-admin closure overturned, discussion reopened. ~ trialsanderrors (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per The Transhumanist. John254 14:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, John254 16:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete per nom. None of the references above have actually been added to the article as yet; the Arkansas Times article is just a gig listing, and therefore inelegible per WP:BAND; I'm not sure that MediaPredict counts as a reliable source, and all the article says is "if this band goes on to become successful, they'll be worth money", which seems to imply that they're _not_ successful as of the article date; and the purported iTunes charting is not backed up by the URL cited, which just gives the current chart. Whether or not iTunes charting is sufficient evidence for notability is debatable, but, even if it is, we're going to need proof that they actually _did_ make the iTunes chart. Tevildo (talk) 16:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete -trivial media coverage Addhoc (talk) 18:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - The iTunes dance chart is not a relevant national chart, in the same way that top 50 country tracks sold on Amazon isn't relevant. The Billboard singles and airplay charts are, that's national, not just a single retailer. And I'd argue that the niche subsection charts such as Hot Dance Club Play, or Hot Christian Songs don't count either. For a band, these guys have had trivial coverage. - hahnchen 20:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, one of countless non-notable bands with a MySpace page and an EP "currently being worked on". The iTunes Dance Chart is not what's meant by a "national music chart". The mediapredict.com link is an online betting game where, basically, you can bet on whether or not The Medic Droid will become notable. And the Arkansas Times link is a gig listing! --Stormie (talk) 22:27, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.