Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Lumberjack (Humboldt State University)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Merge to university article. The actual discussion concerning the worth of this particular article isn't very convincing in either way, but in its current form the article doesn't say anything that makes it worthwhile in a wider context, therefore the merge. - Bobet 18:25, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Lumberjack (Humboldt State University)

A students newspaper that's restricted to one university. How can this be notable? Andeh 03:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nominations. --Emc² (CONTACT ME) 03:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete not notable --Xrblsnggt 04:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge content to university article and redirect. — Reinyday, 04:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep See The_MIT_Tech, The Collegian of Walla Walla College, The Daily Collegian (Pennsylvania), The Daily Collegian (Massachusetts), The Harvard Crimson, and probably many others. These are all run mostly or entirely by undergrads from one university. We could delete or delete/merge all of them, or we could pick and choose which universities and which papers are sufficiently notable for inclusion, or we could keep them all. Millions of US college students read these, and every now and then a story in a college paper becomes national or international news. When it comes to articles about news sources, I think Wikipedia should err towards inclusion. Flying Jazz 05:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

If this newspaper breaks a story that becomes national news, then it might deserve an article. Dgies 06:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep There are many student newspapers in the category Category:United States student newspapers. Student newspapers and their web sites are often the most reliable published source of information about a university and related cultural and sports topics on campus and in the community, and many people who work at student newspapers go on to become professional journalists. As well, a student-run newspaper can also be where people learn business and interpersonal skills that are valuable in the real world. And student newspapers bring a student perspective to the news, sports and cultural coverage that is missing from commercial newspapers. TruthbringerToronto

(Talk | contribs) 06:08, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Student newspapers may be worthwhile but that doesn't automatically make them notable. Of the newspapers listed in Category:United States student newspapers, not all should have articles. The ones worth keeping have something notable about them besides the mere fact that they exist and are valued by their community. Dgies 06:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect per Reinyday. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 06:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per above. -- 9cds^(talk) 08:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect. Tychocat 09:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge - and redirect. --Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 14:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge My college has no less than two WP articles devoted to university publications (the Brandeis Justice and the Brandeis Hoot immediately come to mind). However, both of those articles have a significant amount of content. If all the article states is "it's the student-run paper of XXX University," I think it should be merged into XXX U.'s page. -- Kicking222 16:55, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep or merge in any case most certainly do not delete. This would be a flagrant case of systemic bias. While I agree that these are only mildly important publications, precedents clearly make this article un-deletable. Pascal.Tesson 18:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge - This article would probably stay a stub forever. It has no standalone value, but is worth a mention in the university article DavidHumphreys ^{SPEAK TO ME}ABOUT _{THE THINGS I MESSED UP}18:19, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment and with all those people claiming that all schools are notable, the next logical step is that their newspapers are notable too. Argh! Carlossuarez46 19:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. I think all university newspapers are notable, since they typically have circulation in the thousands and are home to many future journalists. --Aguerriero (talk) 03:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per T&E:FEQ ~ trialsanderrors 06:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect per above.--Joe Jklin (T C) 17:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.