Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Justice

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was The result was merge and redirect to Brandeis University. I'm also closing the similar AfD on "The Hoot" with the same result and redirecting The Blowfish and The Louis Lunatic on the same reasoning. —Doug Bell talk 20:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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I placed a redirect from this namespace to Judge per WP:BOLD and per consensus that student journals (with few exceptions) are not notable. I have been challenged on the lack of transparency of my act by User:EarthPerson, and am bringing this here to AfD per his/her request. My contention is that while this journal may be known and well established within Brandeis University, it remains a non-notable student journal as far as the world at large is concerned per plenty of consensus here; sister Brandeis journal The Hoot appears to be headed that way too. I do not believe the university itself has any real claims on the word "Justice", which is universally synonymous with judges. If I named my organisation's journal The George W. Bush, that act in itself would not make my paper notable. Nor, assuming said article existed, would I be justified in claiming a redirect to the page of my organisation upon its deletion. Delete Ohconfucius 01:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete or Merge into Brandeis University Josh Parris#: 01:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete a mention on the Brandeis page is all this needs - not a complete masthead.--Dmz5 02:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 05:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge into Brandeis University. SkierRMH,07:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Most college newspapers do have a mention. Just because "the Justice" happens to be a common name doesn't mean the newspaper should lose its site. futhermore, it's not like people type in "the Justice" if they are looking for information about a justice or judge. It seems like whoever wants to delete this is making a problem out of nothing. What if you just are linked to a page that tells you can either go to the newspaper version or the entry about a judge.--129.64.147.52 08:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep What if you rename it to The Brandeis Justice and redirect The Justice to judge or whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.55.200.20 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 13 December 2006
  • Merge into Brandeis University. --EarthPerson 16:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Abstain, as it is my school's newspaper. However, if I may be a smidge opinionated- which, of course, I always am- The Justice sucks. It's a craptacular paper. It's no worse (in fact, it is marginally better) than Brandeis's other paper, but it sucks nonetheless. -- Kicking222 16:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge into Brandeis University. Not in and of itself notable. A Train take the 21:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge into Brandeis University. It's significant to the University Community, but not on a larger scale.-- danntm T C 03:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge as per all the other merges. -- Whpq 15:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep If you merge or delete this, then you'll have to do the same to every other campus newspaper page on this site. That is, unless you're a hypocrite. And also, for those of you who say "the Justice sucks," you clearly don't know how much time and effort goes into creating it. Maybe it doesn't live up to your high standards, but do the Justice a favor and do one of the following: 1) shut up, and don't share your opinion until you have a valid one based on tangible facts, 2) join the Justice and help make it better, since you seem to know so much about journalism, and 3) shut up, because you probably don't know a thing about journalism. Don't insult the people who take the Justice seriously by writing "the Justice sucks" because it only makes you look bad. Anyway, keep the page as is, because there are people in the community who read the Justice on a regular basis, and it will save you the time of deleting or merging every other campus newspaper listed on the site.
    • Seriously, who said this article should be deleted because the Justice sucks? I think that person abstained. But to answer your 1, 2 and 3 (just so you know I'm in favor of keeping it)...1) Just because a lot of effort goes into making it, doesn't mean it doesn't suck. How do you know this person doesn't base his/her opinion on facts...he does go to Brandeis and does read the paper. 2) Easier said than done. It's one thing to write articles...which not even everyone can do, but to actually be in a position to help make it better...well that a) takes time b) requires getting past many other editor's egos who think they are the Gods of journalism. 3) speaking of tangible facts...which tangible facts to you base this assertion from? "Don't insult the people who take the Justice seriously by writing "the Justice sucks" because it only makes you look bad" It's not an insult if it's true. "keep the page as is, because there are people in the community who read the Justice on a regular basis" doesn't address the assertion that no one outside of the community knows or cares about it (not saying it's true). Anyway...you probably should have thought a little before posting what you did since it made you sound childish and defensive.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.