Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The History of Shaw

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete The History of Shaw while keeping Shaw, Missouri. It's doubtful anyone will look for the area under the former phrase. Any verifiable history of the area should go into the new article. KrakatoaKatie 04:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The History of Shaw

The History of Shaw (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Reads like an ad for the book, with nothing to add on the history of the area aside from mention of a bypass. Related AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaw History. — Laura Scudder ☎ 00:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

  • I merged the whole artice into Shaw, St. Louis. It can now be Deleted (pointless redirect as it's non-searchable term). --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Woops, it's the wrong Shaw.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note. See WP:ANI#elaborate scam.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:23, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete non-verifiable. `'Míkka>t 05:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete: Wikipedia does not allow genealogy, and that includes "how long people with my name have been here" and all the other sublocal stuff. Utgard Loki (talk) 13:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep if the town is real. the content of the article is another matter and can be edited. I have started by removing the general account of Daniel Boone, which made up most of the article.
    • No evidence that the town is real. No ghits. [1], [2], refering to the Shaw in Missouri. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 20:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
      Looks like it's part of unincorporated Boone County, Missouri. [3] Not even a Census Designated Place, which is why we don't even have an article on the town. I'm going with delete, but if the discussion goes the other way, I'd say this belongs at a general article on the town at, say, Shaw, Missouri. No reason to have a special article on the history of a place we don't even cover. — Laura Scudder ☎ 22:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment There's a similar nomination for an article called Shaw Preservation Society, which also included data about a cemetery. From what I gather, there was a community called "Shaw" near Columbia, Missouri and the inhabitants buried their dead in a cemetery there. It's not unusual for cities like Columbia (home of the U. of Missouri) to have grown over the top of rural communities that existed in the 19th century, as in Fayette County, Kentucky # Cities and towns. Is the existence of Shaw verifiable? Yes. Has it been verified? Not so far. But if it is, then this should be a keep. Mandsford (talk) 22:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I want to say sarry for any of this, All we did was want to put up history of an area with lots of history. We had the idea as a group to put up a history of Shaw and Two-mile. We spend are time And money on the Cemetarys them self. I sit on the History Bord and as do 4 others and we all came up with the idea to help save some histoy. Yes it was done all at the same time we all got together and did . I am sorry that no one can find fact on this site but we do have a small town with lots of history. We asled Mr Wetter if we could put somethin up on his house and he said, I am sorry that I or any of us tryed to tell of our History, Sorry Mr. Wetter you have done alot for our town and history, forgive us for trying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shaw1873 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC) — Shaw1873 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  • Delete While real towns are notable, there's no evidence this place exists and strong implications that it does not. Edward321 (talk) 02:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
    Again, yes, exists, not very big. — Laura Scudder ☎ 05:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep -- Shaw is registered in GNIS, shows up on Google maps, and so on. The article needed some work, and still needs references regarding the history of Shaw. I rewrote it as a place article to reflect the fact that the place is substantiated. I tagged the history section as unreferenced. It no longer reads like an ad, so the the criteria for nomination no longer applies. -- Shunpiker (talk) 02:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

There is a signpost placed by the illustrious state of Missouri for the town of Shaw. I personally refer to it as "The Booming Metropolis of Shaw" second only to "The Booming Metropolis of Murray" (Missouri) which is just up the road from it 'a piece'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123jake (talk • contribs) 06:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC) — 123jake (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  • Keep, Keep

I want say that I am Tim mann out of NY, I put up history that I have worked on for over 10 years, Mr Brewcrewer, how hids under a name, did his study in less thr 48 hr. YES i put it up in one day, i had the day off, i work for a living, I had it on paper and put it up, I have tons more to put up too. I would have loved to give you more so you could find it alot faster but brewcewer want it all down. Note that many of you if taken a little time , is finding things on it, but I thank you you took longer then 2 days to try and come to an a Fact. A hoax, No you Mr brewcrewer are, two days and he knows it all, most of you have found thing on the House,Town and Family, If i would have been given more time i would have added a lot, and i woul hope that others would too. But history ill be lost.Mr brewcrewer did not like one thin and went after it all, Jelles ha, Note He took down things on the Conaradines family members i put up, NOTE that as to just Rudolf having no kids, is wrong, on WP, there are 6 other pages that say he did, one of the was Duke of Swabia Berthold I, but he kows all the great histoy man. He took down and changet things with out one Refference and source, he did not let you see what was up till he pulled it down. Over a yera ago i went west on a trip, I stoped by and took a tour of Weyyershaw maner I saw shaw and I meet the man, He is who I said he was and it is a photo of him. Learn to take time and look things up and give it some time, you may learn something Mr brewcrwer self made history giant. You are an A no# 1 hoax to not let history stay up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveofhistorynut (talk • contribs) 17:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Also to note that mr. brewcrewer took down over 90% of what i put up in history, He changed took down bi's and full pages that you could not see and let you the good people of WP get only 10% of what I put up and call it a Hoax, It sounds like making people get only 10% of the story is a Hoax. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loveofhistorynut (talk • contribs) 18:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Missouri-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 11:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep as moved to "Shaw, Missouri" and cleaned up. Verifiable unincorporated settlement near Columbia, Missouri. • Gene93k (talk) 11:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OUTSIDE OF COLUMBIA, MO CALLED SHAW. IF YOU WANT PROOF GOTO TRIPADVISOR.COM AND LOOK UP COLUMBIA, MO AND YOU CAN'T MISS SHAW JUST NORTH OF I-70 OUTSIDE OF COLUMBIA, MO. OR FOR PROOF OF OUR COMMUNITY LOOK UP MISSOURI 4-H NEAR COLUMBIA, MO AND LOOK UP THE MAP SECTION AND YOU WILL SEE SHAW, AGAIN CAN'T MISS IT. THIS 4 H GROUP IS THE ONE THE KIDS AT TWO MILE PRAIRIE ELE SCHOOL GO TO! THIS IS ONE OF THE OLDEST AREAS SETTLED IN MISSOURI! AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. WETTER FOR ALL OF THE WORK HE HAS DONE AND ALL THE TIME HE HAS DONATED TO PRESEREVE TH HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO YOU MAY GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THIS WEBSITE BUT YOU CAN'T REMOVE THE COMMUNITY PRIDE I FEEL! I LOVE SHAW!****************


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