Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Great Cube Debate

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The result of the debate was delete. Joyous 23:13, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Great Cube Debate

A question on a SAT test where some people are unsatisfied with the reference answer. The article should establish notability (will this be remembered in 10 years?), or be deleted. Thue | talk 09:42, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, Google returned only 2 results, non-notable. - Mailer Diablo 11:56, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Obviously, since the event happened less than 24 hours ago. Zzyzx11 22:43, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Uh, neither of the 2 hits is relevant. One is one about how quickly ice cubes freeze and the other is whether collectors of mini-RC cars should keep them in the original "cube" packaging. By the way, there are no relevant hits in Google News either. Dpbsmith (talk) 02:40, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete without verifiable references to the debate's existence - David Gerard 13:14, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Bad title. Not suitable topic for a whole article and not useful as a redirect. I'm not inclined to believe there is such a debate; Google news search finds 22,900 articles about the SAT, many within the last 24 hours, with no such problem mentioned. I'm suspicious about whether the article text is correct, and the wording is too muddled for me to judge the issue for myself (are we talking about right angles or right triangles?). There have been very few (commendably few) cases of SAT questions where the wrong answer was scored as correct, and they've been national news. I would be inclined to think such questions are notable enough for a section within SAT, perhaps "Disputed questions," but any such items would certainly need to include the actual question text, suitably-sourced authoritative opinions about the right answer, and an indication of whether the ETS acknowledged an error. Dpbsmith (talk) 14:31, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• P. S. Nothing in rec.puzzles about this.
• Delete. How great could it be within 24 hours of the test? Gazpacho 18:08, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a news agency that reports events that occur within days. Zzyzx11 22:40, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Even though it might be notable in the future, it is not notable now. Zzyzx11 02:52, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. The debate may be great, but the article...not so much. I also wouldn't mind seeing a section on disputed questions (for the SATs and other major standarized tests). Carbonite | Talk 01:36, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unless substantial media coverage happens. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:07, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Notability apart, it seems to be wrong. There are 24 distinct right triangles on a cube. DJ Clayworth 17:59, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • ???? I would have said that there are no right triangles on a cube. There are eight corners, each of which consists of three edges at right angles to each other. The three edges at a corner form three right angles. It's been too long since I took geometry to remember whether there's a definition of the phrase "distinct" in regard to angle.
  • The three right angles are distinct in that none of them are congruent with either of the other two. That makes a case for 24 distinct right angles.
  • On the other hand, each right angle shares each of its sides with one of the other right angles, so in a sense none of them are fully distinct. So you can make a case for 0.
  • If you ask "if you pair edges into right angles, never using each edge more than once, how many right angles can you construct?" since there are 12 edges and each right angle consumes two of them the maximum is 6. To actually construct them seems to be a little bit of a puzzle; I've managed to find six, but it's surprisingly asymmetrical.
  • Triangles... there aren't any triangles in a cube unless you draw some diagonal lines between the vertexes. I have an idea that the question must have contained a diagram. However, I don't want to try to reverse-engineer what the diagram might have looked like, or the wording of the question, based solely on the information that the right answer is supposed to be 12. Dpbsmith (talk) 22:16, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. —wwoods 20:56, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This should be a subject of an article, but it's got to have a more descriptive title. --Daniel C. Boyer 21:40, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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