Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The E

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no real consensus, though it certainly was not going to be kept. So, I was bold and deleted it, then made it a redirect to Ecstasy (drug) per User:Cdc. Robert ^{T | @ | C} 01:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The E

Appears just to be a school award, quite unnotable as far as I can tell (not on the first 3 pages of google.) Fallsend 14:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

• Delete - Per Nom. Fallsend 14:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Its the centerpiece award at a summer program thats 104 years old and one of the best known "summer camps" in the US. For the 50,000 people who've come through the program over the last 50 years it is a big deal. Perhaps it could be folded into the main Culver Academies page if people are desperate to remove it?

An interested group of Summer School alumni are hoping to create a stronger web presence for a program that really should be better represented online considering the caliber of its alumni (George Steinbrenner, owner of the yankees won an "E" and considers it a big deal) and stature in the summer camp world. We're hoping to record the great history of the program slowly through pieces on here, a history that has involved some big names in American politics, military history, and culture.

Also, with a name like "the E" you would imagine it would be difficult to google it.

-bflora, webmaster: www.passinreviewonline.com

• Delete - Wikipedia is not a promotional vehicle. Just zis Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] :: AfD? 15:00, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. "An interested group of Summer School alumni are hoping to create a stronger web presence for a program that really should be better represented online" is great and all, but that's not the purpose of Wikipedia. → Ξxtreme Unction {yak yak yak ł blah blah blah} 17:10, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Vote changed to merge and redirect. Since the original article has already been merged by the author into another, more appropriate article, all that's left to do now is place a redirect. → Ξxtreme Unction {yak yak yak ł blah blah blah} 19:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Point taken as I'm sure you're all more familiar with whats appropriate on here than I would be. The intention isn't to promote anything really though, but to document things, which I'd always thought was the point of this site but I could be off. Very interesting to see the review process here up close for the first time too.

• The claim that you are not trying to promote anything is at considerable variance with the earlier claim that you are trying to create a "strong web presence." Just sayin'. → Ξxtreme Unction {yak yak yak ł blah blah blah} 18:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

-I suppose. What i meant though was that for all the alums out there, when they want to read about the history of the school and go online, there's nothing there. We're not trying to promote anything but to put the historical information about the schools' traditions online like they are on here for many places. Now I concede there are better ways of doing it than others which we will try to find and also that not everyone and his brother is interested in everything having to do with the program which is why its helpful to have you all here, but I think its reasonable for us to try to include some historical information about prominent aspects of a prominent boarding school's prominent summer program on here. The "how" is the question. Thanks.

• Edit the existing article to remove POV phrasing like "sacred and holy," then merge the result into the Culver Academies article. Then it becomes an issue for further editing, rather than an issue of article deletion. Remember that, despite my comments above, putting an article up for deletion does not always mean that the information in the article should not exist anywhere within Wiki. It just means that the information doesn't warrant a distinct, seperate article. If you can merge this into the Culver Academies article, in an appropriately neutral way, I suspect that most folks currently objecting would withdraw their objections. I would, certainly. → Ξxtreme Unction {yak yak yak ł blah blah blah} 18:49, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

-Gladly. I've moved it in there as another graph and trimmed it down a bit.

• Redirect to Ecstasy (drug) - arguably a much more useful redirect than to this obscure award. CDC (talk) 22:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect per CDC. Xoloz 16:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.