Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Driven

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The result was keep. Mr.Z-man 05:14, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Driven

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Only thing this band has going for them is the label. That is still not that strong. This band is not notable. Metal Head (talk) 03:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, meets criterion #5 of WP:MUSIC (multiple albums on a notable label), and Polydor is a notable label. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I'm about to add a source that notes three singles which charted in the lower echelons of the UK pop charts. Chubbles (talk) 03:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep: Does meet MUSIC. Also, another source has been added by Chubbles. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - multiple albums on Polydor and charting singles (even if they're waaaaay down where they need scuba gear to survive) tend to satisfy WP:MUSIC. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that that's international success, as the band's Irish. Chubbles (talk) 22:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if I would go as far as calling them a "success."Metal Head (talk) 19:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - UK Charts are only usually considered reliable down to No. 75 - fchd (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but what makes a chart position less reliable in the lower regions? Also, the band is Irish; they charted in their home country, as well, I imagine, but the Irish Singles Chart doesn't keep archives on its site from before 2007. Might be a fun project for me over Thanksgiving break at the library... Chubbles (talk) 21:04, 21 November 2007 (UTC)+

Because back in 1996, the UK charts were based on a (very small) sample of shops. On such a small sample, it becomes easy to extrapolate higher positions because the number of sales can easily rank them. When you get down to singles selling 300-500 copies per week (which would have been a reasonable estimate for ranks 175-200, the proportion sold in chart return shops may have been 10 or 20. Extrapolating this nationwide is not particularly sound. Things are different now, when virtually all sales, physical or download, are recorded and used for chart compilation. - fchd (talk) 21:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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