Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Death Cookie

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete all as non-notable, and duplications of material already in Chick tract. Redirect all but The Little Princess to Chick tract (in case some cares to do a dab page there). Pastordavid (talk) 21:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Death Cookie

The Death Cookie (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

The Assignment (Chick Publications) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

The Contract! (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

The Little Princess (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

This is a Jack Chick strip that appears not to be independently notable. I proposed a merger to Jack Chick but only two people commented, and one of those suggested it was not notable and there was nothing worth merging. I count fewer than 1,000 Google hits provably for this, and few if any of those count as reliable sources. A redirect to Jack Chick would be fine, but as I say I can't really see any justification for having this article on just one of Chick's strips. Add to that the fact that it is written almost entirely from the primary source itself, and I think the argument for removal is pretty strong. Guy (Help!) 10:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

• Merge/Redirect to Chick tract (rather than the main Jack Chick article). I agree that the individual tracts don't automatically deserve their own articles. Based on an unscientific sampling of references to individual tracts in the general on-line world, a case might be made for "Big Daddy" or "Doom Town" or "The Sissy", but none of those three have their own article - "The Death Cookie" isn't in that league of notoriety. Tevildo (talk) 11:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Note - I've expanded this AfD to include the three other Chick tracts that have their own article. My opinion above applies to all four, with the exception that The Little Princess should redirect to the Shirley Temple movie (The Little Princess (1939 film)) rather than Chick tract. Tevildo (talk) 14:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Actually, considering the number of articles we have on "The/A Little Princess", I think The Little Princess would be better off as a full-blown dab page. Tevildo (talk) 14:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to Chick tract per Tevildo. I'm not sure any of the Chick tracts would have notority in their own right. I mean, when I see one on a bus or in the restroom, I may pick it up just to giggle a bit but I don't usually remember them by name. I just remember it was a Chick tract. -- Redfarmer (talk) 13:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge. Looking back, I agree that too much of the article is devoted to plot summary, but there are at least two reliable third-party sources. Catholic Answers is described on Wikipedia as "one of the largest Lay apostolates of Catholic apologetics and evangelization in the United States," so their opinion on this issue is probably notable enough to include. (See [1]). Another discussion of the comic is on About.com. According to Wikipedia, "The content is written by a network of over 600 journalists, called Guides, who are experts in their particular fields." Since this discussion was published on About.com, a former Top-10 website that is owned by The New York Times, and written by an expert in the field of atheism/agnosticism, it also deserves inclusion. This article could be condensed into a paragraph-length summary in the main article on Chick tracts. *** Crotalus *** 21:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- Hiding T 23:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge/redirect as they have no independent notability, right?--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 02:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - Per JzG, individual tracts have not demonstrated notability sufficient for a fork. Most useful content already exists in related articles. Tijuana Brass (talk) 08:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge/redirect to Chick tract, but let's see if we can get rid of the overly-long plot summaries that can be found by reading the source material. (Not that I recommend reading the source material, though.) --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 19:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.