Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Clockwork Waltz

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. JIP | Talk 06:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Clockwork Waltz

Non-notable band tribute at community theater with limited run in one small city. Wikipedia is not a theater listing. Dhartung | Talk 08:29, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Plans are actually in the works for a regional tour of independant theatres. The Dresden Dolls support this production and future tours, as well as productions of this nature. (Just look at their roots in the music industry) I don't feel the entry should be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.228.149.182 (talk • contribs) 00:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and I get the impression that individuals associated with the production have written the article, or at least the original text, and likely have written the above comment. Originalbigj 00:31, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Community theater? I don't think so. When the production lands on Broadway, or goes on a national/international tour with multiple verifiable sources, the article can be re-created. --Wine Guy Talk 01:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. I brought this up before on the article's page. This is a community theatre project and not notable enough for a Wikipedia entry. As Wine Guy said, when it gets big it can be remade. Tartan 20:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Wikipedia may not be a theater listing, but it is an encyclopedia; that means that all subjects - whether you consider them relevant or not in your elitist snobbery of what is acceptable - should be allowed to have an entry.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.84.18.84 (talk •contribs) 02:02, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This article was added as what we felt was a notable entry for The Dresden Dolls and to people everywhere. The fact that a band signed to a major label would allow and encourage our production should be notable in itself. Citing WP:NOT is probably not the best method of recommendation for deletion. Nowhere in that article do I find anything that suggests our article is inappropriate to Wikipedia. This article was not meant to be as for a theatre listing, but to serve for reference as articles do for other plays and musicals. "An encyclopedia is a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge." Why must you be so particular?Alexbt 03:55, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Alexbt, I cited WP:NOT casually, but we actually have a formal deletion policy and music notability guidelines. At the moment there isn't a specific guideline for theater productions, but if there were, then some level of national media coverage would be part of it. The band's involvement appears to be largely passive cooperation, and while that makes it worth noting on their article, the article doesn't fit the level of notability that we've established to prevent Wikipedia from becoming, essentially, Geocities for anybody who wants an article on themselves. More on point, we wouldn't want it to fill with advertising pages, either. By asserting standards of encyclopedic value we ensure that our users can think of Wikipedia as something useful. While we can include more, much more, than a paper encyclopedia, we can't include everything. I hope you do not see this as judgement of the artistic value of the show, because it is not. --Dhartung | Talk 07:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete maybe this show will be notable in the future but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. MarkBuckles 18:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Discount anon votes. Ifnord 05:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Necessary entry for Dresden Dolls oeuvre. NYcine 01:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.