Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Bench
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep/nomination withdrawn. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 02:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Bench
Not notable. So-called references are links to general sites. The three links within the article don't mention any so-called "the bench" organization. nadav 08:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
This article is a legitimate article with sources cited. It has precidents set by the list of Big-12 student rooting sections for basketball games. I do not understand why it would be put up for deletion. Furthermore, please refer to outside link number one. That is the official University Athletics site acknowleding the existence of The Bench. Also, since the citations are from rival school's newspapers, it is not surprising that they do not acknowledge the offical name for The Bench. Do not be so quick to jump to conclusions just because you are not familiar with a situation. Thanks.
I also just added yet another external link quoting students who were members of The Bench as well as the University physically moving the seats that The Bench use at games. More irrefutable evidence that it exists. Maybe you should check on Big 12 basketball student sections that cite no sources and are simply single sentences instead of this legitimate article.
- Delete as failing to be notable or backed up with reliable sources. A university group that I cannot find has attracted any notice by the outside world. - Peripitus (Talk) 09:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
- Keep seeing as it has reliable sources (univesity and athletic website, as well as three different alternative press newspapers). As far as notability goes, please refer to this article and a list of 9 similar articles for the Big 10 rooting section: [1], that, my friends, is precedent especially since The Bench articles sites far more sources. (gomfbears)
- Comment To be fair, I will nominate the rest of the student cheering section articles after this debate concludes. As for precedent, see WP:WAX. nadav 16:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
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- or, I am sure, not nominate them if the article is kept.DGG 00:19, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- If the article is kept, will we take it as a "precedant" that any college student organization deserves its own article? The only source that mentions "The Bench" by name is the team's website. Does that meet notability standards? nadav 06:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Clarification- Not only does the school website refer to the bench by name, but also a newsapaper (The Daily Californian) which is independent of the school also speaks of The Bench by name. Furthermore, the article references the architectural plans for the remodeling of the gym, which set aside a specific location for "The Bench.' Here is another article specifically on The Bench [2] and I assume you will not need a list of the numerous other articles mentioning it. Here are some articles mentioning The Bench (just search Bench in your browser and it will take you there, as I am sure you know) [3]. Also, the Prank the article mentions under Heckling tactics gave the student section fame as one of the greatest baskeball pranks ever [4] (gomfbears)
- Sports Illustrated Article- Here is an Article on Cal Student Section, clearly highlighting The Bench. Clearly, this is a highly reliable source and to be profiled on SI is definitely notable. [5] (gomfbears)
- Withdrawn Ok guys, you proved your point well. When I nominated the article for deletion, I did not get the sense that it had been covered in publications. But the SI column and Daily Cal article proved otherwise. May I ask that you incorporate the sources into a References section? Best, nadav 23:42, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Great! I understand your concern and will fix the references section right now.
- Keep. I agree with with nadav's decision to withdraw the nomination based on the references that have been added. Gomfbears -you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment or clicking the signature button located above the edit window. This makes it much easier to follow who is saying what.--Kubigula (talk) 22:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.