Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Avenue at White Marsh

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to White Marsh Town Center. Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Avenue at White Marsh

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Non-notable strip mall in Maryland, none of the sources seem to be very good. Violates WP:NOT#DIR as it's mosty a street listing, also borderline advertising. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Keep: This is a well-known strip mall and an extension to White Marsh Mall and commerce area. People come from all over the Baltimore area and elsewhere to shop at The Avenue. The article can be improved by describing its history, impact, etc, and changed from its advertising style. The shops at The Avenue are nearly all well-known national and international chain stores like Staples, Barnes and Noble, Old Navy, etc. This is not just an ordinary neighborhood shopping center. Sebwite (talk) 03:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

  • That makes it sound like... well, just about every other strip mall in America. I have already tried to find reliable sources on this strip's history, impact, changes, etc., and have found nothing useful, which is why I've put it up for deletion. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Can you define strip mall, I don't consider The Avenue a strip mall.MDSL2005 (talk) 03:28, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: Non notable, and Wikipedia is not a directory. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:03, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge: Merge into the White Marsh Mall article. Xyz7890 (talk) 16:26, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
    • The Avenue is adjacent to White Marsh Mall, but not owned by the same company. MDSL2005 (talk) 17:20, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

*Delete It's just another lifestyle center/strip mall, with no notability through reliable sources as said above. Wildthing61476 (talk) 17:46, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Merge then delete per my discussion below. Wildthing61476 (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I've been there, it's a generic outdoor mall. The difference in ownership could be mentioned in White Marsh Mall. Kmusser (talk) 21:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Before this article is deleted, whatever information in it that is possibly encyclopedic should be transferred to White Marsh Mall, and a small section can be added about it. After that, this title should be made into a redirect to that section of the White Marsh Mall article. After all, someone had suggested merging these articles. Look at the Owings Mills Town Center article to get some idea about how that can be done. Looking at White Marsh Mall and White Marsh Town Center, these are distinct articles about different properties. White Marsh Mall is about the indoor mall building itself. White Marsh Town Center is about the entire White Marsh business area. Currently, this article contains a section titled "The Avenue at White Marsh," and all it says below that is Main Article: The Avenue at White Marsh with no further description. At best, it would be appropriate to transfer the contents of this article there, and edit it as necessary. I would do it now, but first, I would like some comments. Sebwite (talk) 15:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I wouldn't be opposed to moving the crux of this article to the article you mentioned Sebwite. Seems like the most logical place for it to go. I don't feel that The Avenue in itself meets WP:N, but inclusion in the White Marsh Town Center article would be the way to go. Wildthing61476 (talk) 20:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Response: I have just pasted the text of this article into White Marsh Town Center, and deleted all but the best known stores so that it does not constitute a list. I have not made any changes to this article, but in the event it is deleted, the most notable information about The Avenue will be found in the Town Center article. If this article is deleted, it should then be changed into a redirect with "White Marsh Town Center#The Avenue at White Marsh". Sebwite (talk) 21:26, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
That looks great Sebwite, I took the liberty of removing the link to the redundant article, which is up for AfD here. Wildthing61476 (talk) 21:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.