Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Amazing Race 13

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep (closed by non-admin) as per the consensus. RMHED 15:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Amazing Race 13

The Amazing Race 13 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

non-notable future season, and WP:CRYSTAL. Place12312 18:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Probably not any less notable than all other seasons with articles. Is also not a case of WP:CBALL, because it quotes the official "APPLICATION PROCEDURE AND ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS" for dates. Lars T. 19:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete The WP:N guidelines for films say "Films which have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced shooting should not have their own articles. Until then discussion of the film may be included in articles about the film's subject material. Sources need to confirm the start of shooting after shooting has begun." I think it's reasonable to assume that this can be taken to apply for TV shows as well, so for now a paragraph in The Amazing Race article will be sufficient. Tx17777 19:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable. --Thankyoubaby 20:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • "Notable" on its own is not an argument. How and why is this notable, and where is your evidence to back your statement up? Tx17777 20:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Although, having said that, I don't really think notability is the issue here. It's probaly fair to say that this will be notable when it's aired, but at it's still in the earliest of early stages, it's more an issue of WP:CRYSTAL Tx17777 20:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Lars T. The crystal ball argument is a non-starter. WP:CBALL refers to systematically-named pages that, while they will exist, don't have any real information about them. TAR13 isn't like that. Stifle (talk) 20:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. The show and series is notable, even if it will be another year for it to be released. WP:CBALL must be imposed per Lars T. Plus, the show will be out next year. BeanoJosh 21:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. According to this mornings paper, due to the writer's strike, this season has been fast-tracked to air in the spring. 74.245.206.9 05:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Lars T. The same discussion happened for the survivor 16 article, and once the applications were available, the results was keep due to clear evidence that the series WILL happen Survivorfan101 14:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Good god, the information is solid, coming right from CBS's website. They've greenlit the production - and it's almost inevitable that this would lead to production. This isn't like a movie, and the same criteria don't apply. Even if for some odd reason production was shut down, and it wasn't completed, there would still be an article on this never completed season. I see no point in deleting pages that will only reappear in a few months, and really wish the wikiNazis could perhaps raise the issue on the Talk page before shooting the gun. Nfitz 00:52, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep-Info is from the official application. I'm not going to bother to explain the rest, I've said it millions of times in AFDs and I've created some of the Amazing Race articles right from the application. Perfect source. --(Review Me) R ParlateContribs@ 05:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Even if the article might not entirely satisfy various criteria at this moment, it very shortly will. --Limegreen 06:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, as the greenlighting of the season has been confirmed by at least one verifiable secondary source (USA Today). --MASEM 14:04, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.