Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The 3rd Birthday

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:15, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The 3rd Birthday

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no assertion of notability, no sources except a third party 2 sentence statement that it was announced, violates WP:NOT, Crystal ball, game only exists as an announcement, no real information about the game whatsoever exists. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 06:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete as nom. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 22:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Square Enix is a highly notable company, and a search for ""The 3rd Birthday" Enix" revealed quite a lot of results seemingly related to the game.Darkcraft 11:03, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment square enix is a highly notable company, but everything I've seen regarding this future game is nothing but speculation. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 16:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable game from a notable series from a notable developer/publisher. Deathawk 21:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Not sure if I can do this since I'm not a member but I do agree with Deathawk (sorry if I'm not allowed to vote in these sort of things). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.34.217.222 (talk) 00:47, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Notable game from a notable publisher --Raistlin 20:15, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Notable game? There is ZERO information about the game other than an announcement that it exists. How can you establish notability for THIS game? Square Enix's other games are notable, but THIS ONE is not yet. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment a google search reveals: A few hundred forum posts, a couple youtube comments, more forums, a few announcements that the game has been announced, speculation as to how it fits into the parasite eve series......and NO solid information whatsoever. No notability, no nothing. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 20:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: You are looking at this in very black and white terms. In trying to assume good faith I'm supposing that you know little about the politics surrounding the game, but let me tell you when Square announced that one of thier beloved franchises was going exclusively to mobile phones, American Gamers were absoloutly outraged. When a game evokes that type of reaction, and is made by a notable publisher, I think that alone deserves a Wikipedia article. Deathawk 22:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Really? There was controversy? Because, you know, I don't see it anywhere other than on random forums and youtube, neither of which are reliable sources. While you're assuming good faith, I've been in the games industry for almost a decade, from journalism, to development, to advocacy. This game's article CURRENTLY violates WP:NOT a crystal ball,WP:V, WP:RS, and lacks notability. As such, it cannot merit an article. Maybe in a few months when it's further down the development pipeline, or next year if it gets announced at E3, it will. But as of right now, the ONLY VERIFIED INFORMATION IS THAT IT EXISTS AND IT IS SET AFTER PE2. That is NOT enough information to warrant an article. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 22:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment the notability of Square Enix is irrelevant. We're talking about the notability of THIS GAME. Ford creates dozens of concept cars yearly. We don't have wikipedia articles on them because individually they are NOT notable. Notability is not transitive: It does not transfer from Square to this game, nor does it transfer from Parasite Eve 2 to this game (which doesn't even have the name Parasite Eve in the title).⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 22:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - I have added a source to the article and some info about the game. Its a notable series from a notable publisher, notability is inherited in this case (as it would be if Spiderman 4 was announced tomorrow). Details will emerge over the next few weeks/months and we can guarantee that we will eventually have an article on this. Fosnez 01:31, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


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