Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tfnn

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. Maxim(talk) 23:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tfnn

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Non notable web forum. Unsourced and clearly original reearch. Undoubtedly fails WP:WEB Spartaz Humbug! 18:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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  • Delete fails WP:WEB per nom. ~Eliz81(C) 19:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete This could have just been speedied. GlassCobra 21:56, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Please Do not delete TFNN!

TFNN is a web site that helps banned members from the anandtech forums get unbanned, and is an all around cool site. TFNN is like any other forum, It provides info on photography, computer hardware/software and gaming, you can even ask the great one, Cthulhu anything and he might answer you. Despite what a few anandtech mods say about TFNN. (and are probably the people behind this push to have a TFNN removed of the wiki) TFNN provides many services to many people, current Anandtech members and people who have been blessed to never visit the anandtech forums. Thank You.

There is no reason to delete TFNN from Wiki. Wiki is to deliver information. This entry is information about a forum. Please do not delete it. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.225.90.5 (talk) 22:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC) — 24.225.90.5 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 22:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC).

If TFNN is deleted it will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine. Wallydraigle 22:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)— Wallydraigle (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 22:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC) (UTC).

  • Delete. Exactly what is notable about this site? There's no reliable sources about this site, nor is there anything saying what the significance of this forum is outside of the people who use it, the article itself says the forum is "devoted entirely to pretty much nothing". All this nonsensical babble about Elder Gods isn't going to keep this article on WP servers. TheLetterM 23:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Do not delete, TFNN is an offshoot of the largest tech forums on the internet Anandtech forums, it serves as a place to comment on AT Forums without fear of reprisal from the moderators. Pliablemoose — Pliablemoose (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  • Delete, per nom. ** ko2007 ** 23:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

TFNN is indeed an offshoot of Anandtech. As the notable section says it was created as a hideout of sorts for those that were banned from Anandtech for often time dubious reasons. Due to the existence of TFNN and its use as a sounding board for those who was banned from Anandtech many of the so called permabanned at Anandtech were allowed back on those forums. Related to that is the fact that due to discussions that took place on TFNN there were sweeping changes made to the way Anandtech is moderated. How can you say a site is not notable if it was able to affect such monumental changes on one of the largest tech sites on the Internet? Were TFNN as insignificant as you claim those changes would have never occurred. 204.97.214.245 00:05, 18 September 2007 (UTC) shinerburke


Do not delete. An independent source is readily available: http://www.thehiddenworld.net/tfnn.html 24.225.90.5 00:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)aircooled

  • Yeah, nice try. This is just the Wikipedia page posted on another site and most of the site isn't even accessible. I went to the home page and tried to find the TFNN page- couldn't. If this really was an independent site, then the gross replication of said site to Wikipedia entails copyright violation, which on Wikipedia is deadly serious. TheLetterM 00:17, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
    • Needless to say, your loophole failed, and will probably only get you seen in more contempt with other WP editors for trying to "create" independent sources. TheLetterM 00:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

If you want independent verification of how important TFNN is then I suggest you go ask the people at Anandtech who are only there because TFNN allowed them to have a voice when they were wrongly banned from Anandtech. Better yet ask the site admin over at Anandtech about them changing their moderation rules to be more open and fair. Those changes were in large part due to TFNN's influence. 204.97.214.245 00:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC) shinerburke

  • Delete Not notable. i said 01:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete, and can qualify for Speedy since there's no plausable assertion of notability. Try finding an article from a mainstream newspaper. --Sigma 7 02:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per overwhelming consensus above. The "reasons" posted above for keeping the article are textbook cases of WP:USEFUL, WP:LOCALFAME and WP:NOHARM. I'm surprised they didn't dig up WP:WAX while they were at it. --Agamemnon2 12:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


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