Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terrorism (disambiguation)/Evil Doers

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The result of the debate was transwiki. Johnleemk | Talk 09:28, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terrorism (disambiguation)/Evil Doers

Firstly, this violates Wikipedia:Subpages. Secondly, a collection of quotes is not encyclopedic, and thus not suitable for Wikipedia. It may be suitable for Wikiquote, but I doubt it, as it is a huge collection of similar quotes that prove a point: original research. The creator writes This page is required for Wikipedia:Verifiability in citing that President Bush refers to "terrorists" as "evil doers" and "terrorism" as "evil." Before this citation page was added, an editor took all reference to "terrorist" being used to mean "evil-doer" from the disambiguation page because it was not sufficiently cited. [1] --Peter McConaughey 19:51, 30 December 2005 (UTC). If there is no citable page outside Wikipedia, this is original research and should be deleted as such. [[Sam Korn]] 20:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep is my first impulse, simply because the reason given is patent nonsense. Finding quotes isn't original research; are we to delete every article that cites documents that the editors looked up somewhere? OMG, looking for the Gettysburg Address is research! If you can come up with another reason to delete then you might have a case, but this is blatant abuse of the original research policy. Rogue 9 21:29, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Please read my point. The links have been collected to prove a point, i.e. that GWB uses "evil" to refer to "terrorism". Is this true? I don't know. A reputable source would do nicely. Collating quotes is original research, when undertaken to prove a point. [[Sam Korn]] 21:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
• Comment per WP:SP, "Do not use subpages for permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia." In any case this has to go elsewhere. The only question is where. Does it belong in the main article space, and if so under what title? Or does it belong in Wikiquote? Tom Harrison ^(talk) 22:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. The author of this non-article could put one of these quotes in the GWB article, if he does it skillfully. Logophile 01:45, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
• Transwiki to Wikiquote, with a link (and maybe a mention/merging of one quote) from the GWB article on WP. It certainly is not a suitable WP article, but it is useful information for anyone studying Bush and probably took considerable time to put together. Oh and in support Meta's Transwiki article specifically says: "Often an article will have valuable information, but the contributor has submitted it to the wrong place... lists of quotes: they belong in Wikiquote" Dan 13:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
• Transwiki as per above, or Move to List of George W. Bush quotes on terrorism. Bjelleklang - talk 13:02, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
• Transwiki per Dan above Tom Harrison ^Talk 14:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
• Transwiki to wikiquote. --Victim of signature fascism | help remove biblecruft 21:48, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.