Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teleserye

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No action. If you don't want to delete, just slap a {{merge-to}} tag on the article and discuss on the talk page. ~ trialsanderrors 20:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teleserye

Teleserye (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Also added:

List of Teleserye Actors (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) --Howard the Duck 14:14, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Filipinos have been basically local soap operas since time immemorial as "telenovelas" until ABS-CBN came up with "teleseryes" then GMA Network came up with "teledramas". Then Filipinos had "sineseryes", "telefantasyas (GMA's version)/fantaseryes (ABS-CBN's version), Asianovelas (Korean and Taiwanese dramas) etc. while the basic premise of a telenovela, even a soap opera wasn't changed (where the heroine is beat up all night then has revenge, etc., you know the drill.)

Now since these terms are all redundant, I won't suggest deletion, but a merge to telenovela or soap opera or a creation of Television in the Philippines for a more comprehensive look. Also, the articles in question do not cite references and are perhaps original research. --Howard the Duck 05:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete and redirect. I think there's very little to salvage for a merge, as the whole thing is original research (or at the very least unsourced). In any case, this shouldn't stand on its own as an article. --Coffee 06:18, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 09:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. This certainly doesn't read badly, and I'm inclined to assume good faith about the contents despite its current lack of references. (I will have to continue to assume good faith even if references are added, for they're likely to be hard to access and in a language I don't read.) If these series are in fact known as telenovelas in the Philippines, I'd support moving the article to Telenovelas in the Philippines, but there's too much information here to dump it straight into the telenovela article. Agree also that we should have a Television in the Philippines article, but it should be in addition to this one. - Smerdis of Tlön 15:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
    • There's not too much information to dump since teleserye and telenovela are the same. As I've said, it's a coined term. --Howard the Duck 15:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
      • I tend to identify telenovela with Spanish language programming; that's where the word originated, and it isn't surprising that they are called something slightly different in the Philippines. "Television in the Philippines" is a bit too broad for these; at least I hope there's something on TV in the Philippines besides these shows. Perhaps something like Serial dramas on Filipino television would be the best place to merge these several articles; it seems we may have articles about several of these coined terms. - Smerdis of Tlön 19:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
        • There's more to Philippine TV than telenovelas, that's why I said "for a broader look...". As for Serial dramas on Filipino television, I'd oppose to a creation since it is a telenovela, plain and simple. --Howard the Duck 01:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete both per nom. Bigtop 23:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
  • While I admit that I don't know a lot about this subject, a cursory glance at the article and the nomination seems to indicate that merging them all together wouldn't be a bad idea.-Dmz5 05:32, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
  • keep/rename Teleserye (no need in a foreign word in this case). keepList of actors. BAN bundled deletion nominations Mukadderat 18:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
    • What's the rationale behind this? --Howard the Duck 01:18, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
  • rename and complete rewrite Monni 18:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.