Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teflon character

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (Non admin closure). Qst 17:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Teflon character

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Dictionary definition. Transwikied. There's no concrete list of people it's been applied to, and it's only really notable in two or three cases. Chris Cunningham 12:24, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Strong Keep. That name, Teflon Tone for Tony Blair was used in the British press for over 10 years. Everybody in the UK knows that jibe. A definite keep. The article needs cleaned up and some sourced added. I also think the Teflon Tone is in the Oxford dictionary. scope_creep 15:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep The Irish prime minister Bertie Ahern was known as the "Teflon Taoiseach" for about 10 years. The article can be sourced and expanded. Bláthnaid 16:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is just a list of people who have been referred to as "Teflon.." in the media. If the keep !voters can provide sources about this term, then they should do so, but saying "keep and source" is meaningless if the article will never be sourced. Until then it is original research.Crazysuit 19:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment ... or you can do a Google search. A vote for deletion means that no sources exist anywhere, not just in Wikipedia. A lack of sourcing is solved with a tag, not deletion. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 22:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • keep Let's not forget the "teflon don" of mafia fame (I think that sobriquet was applied to a few mafiosi actually, notably John Gotti). Wintermut3 19:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete A category called "characters with 'Teflon' in their nicknames" would be better, unless reliable sources can be found discussing the naming phenomenon as a phenomenon, or linking these people somehow. Without such sources, this is an arbitrary conjunction of otherwise unrelated people. Sheffield Steeltalkstalk 20:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and reference better. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 21:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep but rename to something like Teflon (nickname). The origin is notable and this has become a well-known political (especially) sobriquet, but the phrase "Teflon character" only gets 189 Ghits and many of those are just random. --Dhartung | Talk 21:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree with the name change to Teflon (nickname). Its true their character or reputation is made of Teflon, but it still sounds like a character from a TV situation comedy. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 22:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable and source-able phenomenon. Rename to Teflon (nickname). When I came to the AFD I was expecting some obscure anime character based on the existing title. THE KING 23:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep No concrete list of people it's been applied to? Try Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, John Gotti, Tony Blair, and any other famous person for whom we used to say "could do no wrong" Mandsford 01:58, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    • "Any other person" is the whole problem. It's a pretty common sobriquet these days, so much so that it's a cliche. WP:NOT a collection of cliches. Chris Cunningham 11:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I would agree it's become a hackneyed expression primarily used by lazy correspondents and headline writers. Nevertheless, its original application has historical notability, and notability does not expire. --Dhartung | Talk 18:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
  • In a dictionary, yes. We're not here to document cliches. I firmly believe this should be a category, and if the AfD fails I'm going to go categorising people anyway to see if we can make it one. Chris Cunningham 08:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Looks like your arguments aren't sticking. This article must be made of... you know. Mandsford 12:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.