Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TbaMUD

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. The arguments against merging were unrebutted and persuasive. Xoloz (talk) 21:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TbaMUD

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Doesn't appear to be independently notable from its parent, all references are primary, also reads like an advert. {{mergeto}} tag removed by author. BLACKKITE 10:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Merge = Merge into DikuMUD. Shoessss |  Chat  11:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, doesn't look notable on its own, and if every DikuMUD derivative was merged into DikuMUD, the Wikipedia servers would catastrophically explode from the stress of having such an unimaginably gigantic article within. Lankiveil (talk) 13:59, 15 December 2007 (UTC).
• Keep This page should stay. tbaMUD is a codebase, in the same way that Diku is a codebase, and is currently used by a number of active MUDs. It is vastly different from the Diku codebase, and so merging it into the Diku entry would be wrong. It is also possibly the fastest growing and most active codebase available, with a new release every few months. Anyone can contribute to the evolution of tbaMUD, and it is due to the work of dozens of people that this codebase is available. If the page sounds like an advert, it can be changed. Wiki pages should be factual, which is what I have tried to create. The tbaMUD entry should certainly not simply be dismissed and deleted. StefanCole (talk) 15:22, 15 December 2007 (GMT).
  • Comment. If you have any third-party, non-trivial (i.e. not just an item in a list) references to TbaMUD, that would go along ways towards keeping the article up. --Mdmkolbe (talk) 19:54, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of video game deletions. Someone another (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - it's particularly important for articles on MUDs to show notability, with the thousands and thousands that are out there. Per WP:N guidelines, the best way to show this is through independent, reliable, non-trivial coverage. Nothing suitable appears in the 1350 ghits, so unless any reviews or articles have appeared in paper magazines, this should be deleted. Marasmusine (talk) 19:18, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete for lack of assertion of notability, and lack of reliable sources. Merge isn't really appropriate here for the exact same reasons. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge = Merge into CircleMUD. Basically tbaMUD is the only circlemud release still under development. As it says on the circlemud page (and is thoroughly documented as well), development of circlemud was stopped after the release of circlemud 3.1. After some discussion on the circlemud mailing list, it was decided to keep the development running, but under the new name "tbaMUD". So this should be merged to circlemud, and tbamud added as an index for that page. This will help keep the public informed about where it is possible to get the "latest circlemud files". In short, TbaMUD is circlemud with a new name. Welcor (talk) 13:05, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.