Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Taryn Position

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The result was delete. Sr13 18:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Taryn Position

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Does not appear to satisfy WP:V. Not a widely-known figure skating position (no relevant GHits[1]), named for an amateur figure skater who herself has only 20 unique GHits[2]. ~Matticus ^T_C 09:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable position. Also, it appears to be self-promotion. If/When someone does it as part of a competitive program, then I'd suggest sticking it into spiral (figure skating) or figure skating spins as a variation, but, for now, just delete. Kolindigo 21:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Looks like well-written self promotion <3Clamster 00:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day -- or at the skating rink, either. Unless/until this skating trick becomes notable enough to be described in multiple external sources, this falls into the category of a vanity page. If I'd spotted it before it was AfD'ed, in fact, I would have just marked it for speedy deletion instead. Dr.frog 11:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per Kolindigo. Caroline Zhang is more noted for this spiral position, which as far as I know is unnamed. --Lmblackjack21 10:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
• 'Keep' * To Whom It May Concern--The Taryn Position has been done in both qualifying and nonqualifying competitions beginning at the Los Angeles Open in July of 2006. The position was created in early spring by Taryn Horacek during a lesson with her coach Mary Becktell. Caroline and Taryn are friends having both trained with Becktell. Taryn can be seen doing the position at El Segundo during elite freestyles on Monday and Friday of each week.

Recently, the Glacier Falls Figure Skating club president, Don Rabbit took the move to the Governing Council and was told to call it the Taryn Position and attribute it to Taryn in all discussions and when teaching the move. There is no other way to name a move, but it is correct to assume that the first to create it and present it should receive credit.

I find it amusing that the move is notable and amazing on Caroline Zhang’s page, but not so for Taryn Horacek.Sk8rmom2all 14:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Comment I've gone through all the stuff from the GC that I can find on the USFSA site and I can't find anything about this position. Do you have documentation of this? Kolindigo 16:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Comment I've removed the text from the Caroline Zhang entry that claims that she both invented this move and is the only person to have performed it, since there are no sources given for that information, either. Again, regardless of who invented it, why is this spiral position notable enough to deserve its own Wikipedia entry? We don't have a separate entry for the far-more-ubiquitious change-of-edge spiral or dog-peeing-on-hydrant spiral positions, after all, and I believe those are at least specifically recognized in the ISU regulations. And this particular spiral variation is so obscure that there are not even any reliable sources describing it by the name given here! No reliable sources == not suitable for Wikipedia. And, the fact that you claim this skater has been seen at such-and-such rink doing this move is original research, not a reliable source, and again not suitable as the basis of a Wikipedia article. Dr.frog 19:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.