Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Whelan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep, unfortunately - CrazyRussian talk/email 14:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tara Whelan

Non-notable bio whos speedy deletion has been contested by a new user.[1] Delete as per Wikipedia is not a memorial and WP:BIO. Jester 14:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom. Nuttah68 15:20, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Search for "Tara Whelan" on www.google.ie and see what comes up. This was a national news story in Ireland for the summer of 2005. Just because it means nothing to you, try and show some shread of respect for the grievence of another nation. This incident showed how terrorism effects ordinary people. If anyone agrees that this should be deleted, well why not delete the July 2005 London bombings while you're at it? That was the main story in Britain in summer 2005, and this was the main story in Ireland. Consider keeping it and do a more thorough search for notability, you'll see that this is a very notable story. The death of this girl moved an intire nation, which could have also contributed to the end of the IRA's armed campeign, after seeing how a person from their country could be taken with such an ammount of inconsiderate bloodshed at the hands of another terrorist group. Please see search results here http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=tara+whelan&meta= Surely an international act of terrorism is notable? Spaingy
  • Comment An act of terrorism is notable but being a victim of that act is not in itself notable. This article is not about the incident as the July 2005 London bombings is. Nuttah68 15:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I see where you're coming from but I also ask you to reconsider. Please see the external links on the page. As you may know, young James Bulger was also taken through an act of evil, his story also bringing a nation together (Britain). I understand that it was the trial that attracted most attention, but it was the death itself that brought grievence and confusion to ordinary lives on a large scale. Located here is a video clip from RTE News of the girl's funeral http://dynamic.rte.ie/av/2061384.smil I sincerely request your reconsideration. Thanks. Spaingy
• Merge If there isn't an article about the bombing itself(after a quick search I couldn't find one) then one should be created and the bulk of this information merged into it. If this person's death had the political impact in Ireland that the author asserts it did then it should be kept, but within an article about the terrorist attack and its consequences. This article should then become a redirect/diamg. --IslaySolomon 17:56, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment There was no major political impact, but rather what I referred to was the impact on the psyche of the country. This death was one of the major and most notable occurances in Ireland in 2005. Spaingy
• Delete or Userfy Since we don't seem to yet have an article on the attack, when such an article is made, some information from this article might make sense to move into it. However, one victime of an attack is not notable by themself, as sad as the occurence may be. JoshuaZ 20:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Spaingy. National coverage of her funeral asserts notability. That being said, the article needs cleanup for tone. Meets WP:BIO per "Persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events." -- Northenglish (talk) -- 22:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Northenglish on WP:BIO grounds. Captainktainer * Talk 00:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Northenglish --Gil Gamesh 13:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is neither a memorial, nor Wikinews. And I am Irish, and remember the news coverage. Stifle (talk) 13:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Stifle, if you admit that you remember the news, well then why suggest that this article be deleted? Are there not articles about other murders on Wikipedia? I believe there are. Wikipedia is universal after all, or so I understand. If this happened to a person of another nationality it would most definately by kept. Sorry if it sounds like I'm accusing you of being unpatriotic or anything, that is not the case. Just interested in why this article is still listed for deletion, even given the amount of reliable background and information sources in the form external links, media files, etc. Please do not take this comment in the negative. Do get back in touch. Spaingy

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.