Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tara Whelan (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to 2005 Kusadasi bus bombing. The history of the article has not been deleted. While I saw nothing to merge personally, given the brevity of information on other victims, it would not be inappropriate to merge some of the material provided that the merger is properly handled as per WP:MERGE. In the event of such a merger, of course, the history of this article must be retained for GFDL compliance. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tara Whelan

• Tara Whelan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Delete (at a minimum Redirect/merge briefly with names of other victims to 2005 Kusadasi bus bombing) - there are no substantive reasons for her article to remain. The main proponent (User:Spaingy) for keeping the article has since been indefinitely blocked. It is pure racism to allow her to remain just because of her nationality, when being a victim of crime or terrorism is not in and of itself notable as everyone knows (WP:BIO, WP:N). What about the four other people killed in the same incident? Didn't they have families who loved and cared about them? Yellow-bellied sapsucker (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, or redirect/merge to page of incident.. Either works fine form my point of view. Two One Six Five Five ^{discuss my greatness} 19:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Half the article is about the funeral, classic WP:NOT#MEMORIAL material. If it is moved to a neutral article on the attacks that covers all victims that would be the minimum necessary. --Dhartung | Talk 00:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete this per failing WP:BIO and WP:NOT, and redirect her name to the terrorist attack article which we should go about creating with some merged content from here - does the article on the terrorist attack even exist? That should be notable, and she individually is not notable.-h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 01:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It appears that the article about the terrorist attack doesn't exist. It really should. I guess we did things differently back in 2005.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 01:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Not really. I don't think every terrorist attack should have an article, necessarily, though if one is well written I won't vote it out. For the most part we have very random coverage of stuff like this. --Dhartung | Talk 05:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect to 2005 Kusadasi bus bombing. To address the evident issues raised here (individual possibly not notable under WP:BIO, but event is notable) I have created a new article on the bombing. (Using 2005 Jaunpur train bombing as a template.) Any relevant content should be merged. However - as noted - undue weight should not be given to one victim. (And the detail on Ms. Whelan's funeral should not be merged in my opinion.) Guliolopez (talk) 18:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. —FlowerpotmaN·(t) 00:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 03:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete or redirect, per eveyone above. I don't see how this article can be permitted with WP:NOT#MEMORIAL. hateless 07:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge to Kusadasi bus bombing as per previous. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Redirect to the bombing article, possibly a smerge but really we shouldn't give the victims disproportionate coverage. And we should find the names of the non-Western victims. --Dhartung | Talk 11:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - Have added names of "non-western" victims to the separate bombing article. (It took me a while to find because there are few English language sources that identified the victims [which is partly understandable, and partly telling of our news media]). Per my previous, I still agree with redirect/smerge. Personally I'm not sure if there is actually anything "relevant" in the article on Ms. Whelan that hasn't already been covered. As noted, if much of the funeral/bio detail were merged, it would cause balance issues. At this point I'd say a straightforward "redirect" would be least controversial and would represent consensus from this AfD and the previous one. Guliolopez (talk) 11:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to 2005 Kusadasi bus bombing as specified above. Wikipedia is not a memorial, but it can't hurt to have a bit of material on the victims in the main article, as well as a redirect for people looking for this person. Lankiveil (talk) 13:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC).

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.