Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tanya Hansen

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was consensus to keep. — Rebelguys2 talk 01:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tanya Hansen

Non notable. Article fails to assert notability. Performer has done roughly eight movies from 1997 to 2004, barely averaging 1 per year. Delete. Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 00:27, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Weak keep. Per new information provided in this AfD discussion. It is highly ironic that it took an AfD nomination to improve this article and bring everyone out of the woodwork, per se. -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. Think out loud 22:20, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • keep article has no inherent problems. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 00:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Meets Wikipedia:Notability. Refer to peer review and include clean-up. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:23, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • keep. eight movies seems like a lot. Perle 02:30, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per IMDB which lists her as "Norway's first porn-star" [1] AdamJacobMuller 03:13, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per AdamJacobMuller, first porn star of Norway is a fair claim to notability. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 03:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per AdamJacobMuller, notable porn star --Jaranda wat's sup 03:19, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Eight movies in seven years for a porn star is pretty darn low (several hundred would be the norm). And no awards? No official site? No magazine appearances? Additionally, IMDb trivia is not a reliable source by itself, since it provides no citation; it's like citing to WP alone. It doesn't even say she's Norway's first porn star, it says she "Is considered as Norway's first porn-star" (emphasis added). Weasel word! Given the prevalence of Scandinavian porn in the late 60s/early 70s it's almost a guarantee she's not, but if she really is then we need reliable, verifiable sources. Esquizombi 04:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Schizombie. Royboycrashfan 04:48, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. dbtfztalk 04:50, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete unless better evidence of notabilty provided. Anyone can add a trivia item like "Is considered as Norway's first porn-star" to IMDb; errors are quite common. I did some Googling to try to drum up some credible data on her, but ran into an intriguing problem — what constitutes a reliable source for a Norwegian porn star? I don't know any seriously researched sites, and I'm a little leery of pulling supposed factual information (what there may be of it) from sites called babeinvasion.com and tanyahansen.hugetit.us. But surely there are something other than porn advertising sites and materials available? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep now that Eivind and others have unstubbed and partially referenced this article (see below). It still needs some format cleanup and proper sourcing, but it's clearly shaping up. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:58, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Weak keep. Probably meets the notability bar; needs cleanup Bucketsofg 05:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per Jeff Q; without verification of notability, we shouldn't feel bad about chucking an 18-word substub. Melchoir 06:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep per assorted evidence below. Melchoir 20:26, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Schizombie. KillerChihuahua?!? 06:29, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep per AdamJacobMuller. --Terence Ong 06:42, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep notable actress. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 07:32, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep a household name in Norway. Eivind 07:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment regarding her status a Norway's first pornstar, which is true, the 60s Scandinavian porn Esquizombi is refering to, was from Denmark and Sweden, as Norway had much stricter rules regarding pornography, rules that were not challenged until resently. Eivind 08:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Even though she has not produced many movies, she is apparently considered the greatest Norwegian pornstar of all time. [2]. That site has a short biography about her, my skills in Norwegian are limited, but perhaps user Eivind could assist in translation? ----Marcus 09:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment I translated some of the article and placed it on my talk page. Eivind 09:36, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Perhaps someone could translate the interlinked article at no:Tanja_Hansen? Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:37, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Jinx.  :) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 09:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
      • It states that she's a business woman, former porno actress, and a former editor of LEK and Cocktail (two porn magazines) and now owns a clothing store. Eivind 09:47, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, notable in Norway. Punkmorten 10:09, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Here are selected parts of the translation of [3] by Eivind: "Tanya Hansen is not a porn star that we can measure in popularity with the other pornstars we cover in these pages, at least not in an international context. But she is the biggest, Norwegian porn star ever. Some say the first, but Sasha Gabor was the first. ... She is today a woman the majority of Norway's population has heard of...". Thanks to Eivind for providing the translation! --Marcus 10:41, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, as per others above. She has pages on the Norwegian wikipedia [4], on the Swedish wikipedia [5] and on the German wikipedia [6], where she survived a local AfD. The German article says she won a "2003 Venus Award". David Sneek 11:14, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment If she really is famous I'd be willing to change my vote; I'm not unreasonable. Those other WP articles David Sneek points out are all stubs though; the German one barely even qualifies as a stub. If she really is the most famous porn star in Norway, I'd expect to see an article on the Norwegian WP like Jenna Jameson or Ron Jeremy, and I'm not seeing it. Esquizombi 14:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
      • Ok, I searched some Norwegian sites, to see if she really is a household name overthere. Here is an article about her in the Norwegian national newspaper Dagbladet. This headline from the tabloid Verdens Gang simply mentions her by her first name, because apparently that is enough for their readers. Google comes up with ten mentions of her in the national newspaper Aftenposten; in one of those pieces, about video vending machines, she is only mentioned once: "Bildene på coverne er delvis sladdet. Tanya Hansens nokså veldimensjonerte bryster er tildekket med en stor, gul prislapp..." My translation (caveat: I don't know Norwegian) "The cover images are expurgated. Tanya Hansen's giant naked busom is covered with a large price tag..." - clearly the author of the article felt no need to explain who she is. David Sneek 15:07, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep per Eivind and David Sneek, but please add some more text and citations to the article, and recruit people to help translate sources as necessarily ideally before this AfD even ends. Even the articles on the other Norwegian porn stars are better than this one. Esquizombi 15:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
    • I translated some of the text from the German article - it's hard out there for an inclusionist. Maybe someone who reads Norwegian can add a little more. David Sneek 15:52, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep A notable porn star in Norway. --Siva1979Talk to me 14:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep; although notability may be limited, especially outside of Norway, there is still some notability and the article has potential to be expanded and so forth. --Jay(Reply) 18:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep definitly notable. --Masssiveego 05:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep: There are people of less notability on Wikipedia. - Runcorn 22:51, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete porn-star without a picture on IMDB? no:Tanja_Hansen - nothin' to translate, everything already in english version, even more. --MaNeMeBasat 08:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Popular American porn-star Chloe has no IMDb picture. Not that I, er, would know such stuff. ☺ ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:26, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.