Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tandem Server (CMS)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. —Kurykh 23:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tandem Server (CMS)

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Fails WP:SOFTWARE, WP:SPAM, WP:NOTABILITY, there are no third party sources, it's an advert. Jackaranga 20:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Oli Filth 20:57, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
• I added a 3rd party reference. Tandem Sever is a new CMS System so we do not have many 3rd party references, they are coming, we are just not widely known yet. I don't understand why this is being removed? You have a page dedicated to list different CMS Systems yet you don't allow a page to describe them? Have you looked at the cms system pages you have on your site now? why don't you just scrap the whole works? 90% of them violate the "guidelines" you have. How many 3rd party references do you need? i can probably get a couple more in a week or 2. This article is not meant to be an "advertisement" we are just trying to be diligent in including Tandem Server when CMS Systems are disscussed.Nyhtal 21:45, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment I found your article by looking through that list, I decided to use PROD on the rest when I saw how many there were going to be. Jackaranga 22:07, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

• What do I need to do to keep my article on the site? Nyhtal 22:17, 27 July 2007 (UTC)nyhtal

Comment Just come up with some references from third-party, independent sources. Notability is the only major concern here. See WP:NOTE for details. If you can prove notability (in the present, not "possibly in the future"), we'll keep it. Spazure 04:02, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment There is also a problem with WP:COI if you read what Nyhtal said, he wrote this article to promote his software. Jackaranga 13:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment Are you kidding me Jack? EVERY ONE OF THE CMS Systems in the list are promotions - you are nieve to think they are not. Like i said before why don't you just scrap the entire List page and all the CMS System pages there? THEY ARE ALL "ADVERTISEMENTS". They are products so they are an advertisement. Since you allow products to be listed then you should just limit them to no "sales pitches", which they are not, I think they fit the wikipedia way by just defining what they are. Again i say, why would you have a list page for the different CMS System if you are not going to allow anyone to list their system? Seems silly and a completely biased toward big name brand systems, don't you think? On a side note, I have listed a few "External Resources" for the system to make it notable. I hope this is good enough to get off the deletion status. There will be more resources listed and this page will be updated as time goes on as new things happen with Tandem Server, we plan on keeping this page up to date as much as possible. Nyhtal 29 July 2007

• Delete as failing WP:N, WP:RS. Among the many thing that Wikipedia is not is a place for products that are "new" or "not widely known yet" to become so. When/if the software becomes notable (with multiple, independent, non-trivial sources), it may be appropriate to re-create this. -- MarcoTolo 22:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.