Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tales of the Traveling Gnome

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 16:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tales of the Traveling Gnome

Can more people please start nominating and deleting webcomics? This webcomic, seen here is hosted on the free web host Comic Genesis which pretty much proves its not popular. Now, before we use {{db-web}}, someone is going to point out that it was nominated for the Web Cartoonist's Choice Awards. I'm going to state categorically that a nomination means absolutely nothing, being that there are roughly 100 comics nominated every year, and all the WCCA's are, are an online poll. If this were notable, there'd be quite a few reliable sources available when Googling its title, instead, it just generates 76 unique hits. - Hahnchen 00:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom. As an aside: there are too many awards out there as its so easy to start an award. Not just on the web, but on TV, in newspapers, random publicity campaigns. It can be a very poor indicator of notability/achievement. Bwithh 01:01, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• But when I think crappy webcomics, I think Hahnchen! ...Yeah. ;^_^ Delete Danny Lilithborne 02:49, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom; no reliable sources, WP:NOT an internet guide. -- Dragonfiend 04:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I don't think webcomics deserve their own article until they demonstrate form of notability. MonkBirdDuke 08:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

• To consider I only added the comic after I saw a few listings that were asking for a wiki page for Tales of the Traveling Gnome. The comic itself has had over 10,000 readers for months now, and it's constantly ranked in the top 150 comics in all of ComicGenesis ( Reference Link ) even though it's never done any advertising that I'm aware of. However, do as you see fit, if I erred in listing it, then I did and I apologize. -Hartm, 10:19 AM Eastern, 19 Oct 06
• Delete No assertion of notability. Artist got a nomination, but didn't win (closest thing to assertion that I could find). EVula 15:48, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as this does not appear to meet WP:WEB.--Isotope23 19:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I am not convinced that this award nomination constitutes evidence of notability. -Elmer Clark 01:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Agreed - "nominated" is not equivalent to "award-winning," hence not notable. Johnbrownsbody 10:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
• Thoughts Among these comments I've yet to see something that comes specifically from the guidelines to deletion. The closest I see is 'not notable' which in this seems more a matter of opinion based on a seeming bias towards webcomics. (See first line of nomination.. notice suggestion is towards all webcomics) The WCAA is actually considered a prestigious award ceremony among webcomic artists, and the fact that hundreds participate actually goes forward to show this. The idea that it takes place on line should make sense, given that the people involved aren't rich and live hundreds or more miles apart. The idea that 'being listed at Comic Genesis' makes it not popular and even crappy is yet mere opinion yet again. Many comics that have gone on to be very popular, and featured at Keenspot the 'holy grail' of webcomics started at ComicGenesis. Yes there are many crappy comics there, but that does not by default denote bad without so much as a perusal of the actual comic. It's a resource, therefore attracts good and bad. There are not specific rules against webcomics being listed in Wikipedia. Nor are there specific implied rules that webcomics must be 'popular' or 'noteworthy'. I can't imagine there could be, because such terms tend to be the realm of opinion, and wikipedia tends to take a neutral stance instead of opinionated stances. Deletion on opinion is expressing of opinion. Deletion just because of being a webcomic is doing the same. -JH (reachable at phreakphit@yahoo.com) 10:19 AM Eastern, 24 October 2006

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