Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syrian (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep, consensus is that the article meets the relevant notability guideline. Davewild (talk) 19:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Syrian (band)

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No claim of meeting WP:Notability or WP:MUSIC in article. No professional reviews found at metacritic or allmusic; albums have not charted. Contested prod. Fabrictramp (talk) 12:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 12:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep meets WP:MUSIC#C5 for 3 albums released on A Different Drum records. Article needs a good tidy up mind you.  Esradekan Gibb  ^"Talk" 13:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

  Question Can we get some confirmation that A Different Drum does meet the definition of WP:MUSIC#C5 ("one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable")? I had taken a quick look at several of their signed bands, and in my random sampling didn't see any that claimed notability. I'll gladly withdraw the nom if A Different Drum meets the def, I'm just not seeing (yet) that it does. Thanks!--Fabrictramp (talk) 13:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment, the guidelines I use for myself, if nothing decent can be found online, does the record label have its own article and have a "decent amount" of blue links to bands. If it's notable to have its own article then fine, however if someone then decided that the record label article is a load of crap too, and puts it up for AfD, then like a house of cards, the whole lot should fall. From what I've seen in these discussions, there seems to be no consistency in what makes a record label notable or not, especially when it comes to fringe type music like metal and classical, who don't typically get main stream media coverage (ie Google), but who maybe big in their own genre.
  (pauses for breath) With all that said, my preference is to try not to use the term "weak keep", you're either for it or against it. Although, by my own guidelines this one is a case of a weak keep. All IMHO of course.  Esradekan Gibb  ^"Talk" 22:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• Definitely something to think about. However, I get leary about using blue links (or red links for that matter) as a guide, because all it means is that someone did or didn't make an article, not that notability for that link has been established. I do wish there was more consistency (and a better guide) for what makes a record label notable. It would be a big help. --Fabrictramp (talk) 23:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• I agree totally on a guideline for the labels. With every band and his dog starting their own labels, including my own band, it's not going to be an easy job coming up with something fair.  Esradekan Gibb  ^"Talk" 00:04, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I have found a source claiming A Different Drum to be the largest synth pop label in the U.S. I'm still not sure that the bands on it meet WP:MUSIC though, save for those with multiple albums on the label. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 16:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tikiwont (talk) 10:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

• Keep: band is notable per WP:MUSIC#C5.Mh29255 (talk) 15:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
• Keep A Different Drum does indeed seem to be semi-notable, and this band has had three albums on that label. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.