Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swiss postal codes 1000-1999
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete all. Majorly (hot!) 14:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Swiss postal codes 1000-1999
This article and similar articles in Category:Postal codes of Switzerland do nothing but list hundreds of postal codes and their corresponding geographic areas. As Wikipedia is not a postal directory, I propose that these articles be deleted. Please note that a similar AfD discussion regarding postal codes in the United States (see here) was concluded on April 21 with a decision to "delete". The closing of that AfD discussion was challenged at deletion review here. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 16:05, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related pages:
- Swiss postal codes 2000-2999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 3000-3999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 4000-4999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 5000-5999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 6000-6999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 7000-7999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 8000-8999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Swiss postal codes 9000-9999 (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Please also note that these articles may constitute a copyright violation of the source (download the zip file titled "plz_l_20070401.zip"). However, I don't believe that it meets the criteria for "blantant" infringement as set out at WP:CSD#G12; therefore, it's not subject to speedy deletion. In any case, I am confident that the argument that the articles fail WP:NOT#DIR will suffice to ensure their deletion, and feel that it is better to allow a discussion on the matter so that we can move forward via consensus. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 16:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- neutral, as the creator of this page. Lists are not copyright-able (in Switzerland), so this is not a problem. Originally the pages was created to remove the list of postal code on the original article (no so encyclopedic, but the articles was good to include more text), and also to have a cross reference for Swiss names (these articles did a good job). Now I'm neutral. But there is Category:Lists of postal codes, so IMHO it is better to do a CfD of this category and than AfD of all articles. Cate | Talk 20:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- The articles in Category:Lists of postal codes do not list all of the postal codes and their corresponding geographic areas in a given country. You may note that I have not nominated the article Postal codes in Switzerland and Liechtenstein, as it addresses the general topic of postal codes and could therefore be encyclopedic. At this time, I have no intention of nominating all of the articles in that category for deletion nor am I convinced that they should be deleted. I am only nominating for deletion those articles which provide a directory-like list of all postal codes in a given country. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 20:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- But the category is list of, so I think also the category should be deleted. Articles can belong to more categories, so I agree we should not delete all articles, but most of articles (or the part of article with the list). My comments was more about the procedure, as you see in the USA case there is not a clear consensus, so I would prefer to unify somewere the discussion and not to do separately for every country. Hold until DRV USA ZIP codes closes. (personally I'm disappointed that I'm a deletionist but with articles in AfD ;-) ). Cate | Talk 08:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yup, that sounds good. As soon as the DRV and these AfDs close (waiting a few days won't hurt), I will do the following, which I think ought to take care of the issue.
- Delete directory-like lists from all of the articles, converting them to shorter (i.e., more generalised) form if possible. If this means that there's nothing left of the article, I'll probably just {{prod}} it. See, for example, the article on Canadian postal codes. I don't think I could improve these articles that much, but I think that shows the potential that country postal code articles have.
- Nominate the category for renaming at CFD. I think a better title would be Category:Postal codes by country. That title shifts focus away from listing postal codes and toward describing the system of postal codes across countries, a more encyclopedic topic.
- Rename all articles from the format "List of postal codes in X" to "Postal codes of X". Again, this shifts the focus from listing to analysis. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 16:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yup, that sounds good. As soon as the DRV and these AfDs close (waiting a few days won't hurt), I will do the following, which I think ought to take care of the issue.
- But the category is list of, so I think also the category should be deleted. Articles can belong to more categories, so I agree we should not delete all articles, but most of articles (or the part of article with the list). My comments was more about the procedure, as you see in the USA case there is not a clear consensus, so I would prefer to unify somewere the discussion and not to do separately for every country. Hold until DRV USA ZIP codes closes. (personally I'm disappointed that I'm a deletionist but with articles in AfD ;-) ). Cate | Talk 08:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- The articles in Category:Lists of postal codes do not list all of the postal codes and their corresponding geographic areas in a given country. You may note that I have not nominated the article Postal codes in Switzerland and Liechtenstein, as it addresses the general topic of postal codes and could therefore be encyclopedic. At this time, I have no intention of nominating all of the articles in that category for deletion nor am I convinced that they should be deleted. I am only nominating for deletion those articles which provide a directory-like list of all postal codes in a given country. -- Black Falcon (Talk) 20:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete the minutiae and keep the parent as Black Falcon mentioned. Neier 03:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- Delete: these are directory listings, and wikipedia is not a directory. Ohconfucius 05:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
