Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Superstars song

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, default to keep. As an editorial action, I'm redirecting it to David Fonseca until somebody bothers to write any non-crystalball content for this article. Sandstein 07:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Superstars song

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Per WP:MUSIC, individual songs do not require separate articles unless they are unusually notable and have sources to demonstrate that. In addition, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Prod removed without comment by creator. FisherQueen (Talk) 18:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment This article is about David Fonseca's third album first single, that will be hitting the stores this monday! Till then I will not have more info! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mddms 88 (talk • contribs)

• Then you should have waited until Monday to add the article. It's not like Wikipedia's going to disappear by then. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 18:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, actually... the originator should have waited until the single came out and it was demostrated that this particular release is notable enough to warrent an article on the individual song.--Isotope23 18:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment, based on what i saw, it's common to have the single info placed here before the single is out. The song will be out in 3 days, then I will be able to complete the article. I think it's not necessary to delete it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mddms 88 (talk • contribs).

Comment That only happens when it's 99% confirmed and has notability via WP:MUSIC. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. We only establish future articles when nothing short of a nuclear holocaust will interrupt it. -WarthogDemon 18:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment It's verifiable. You can check the artist official site. It's relevant, because it will receive extensive airplay in Portugal during all the summer. -—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mddms 88 (talk • contribs).

But does it meet the standards in WP:MUSIC? Just because the main site says so, doesn't necessarily make it verifiable. -WarthogDemon 19:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

"has been covered in sufficient independent works." Saw a reference in two newspapers and heard in on one of Portugal's major radio station (antena 3). "has been ranked on a national or significant music chart" Surely will be soon on Portuguese airplay top. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mddms 88 (talk • contribs)

How good a reference was it? And notice that the criterion is "has been ranked", not "will be ranked". And please sign your posts. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 19:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

• I am not a fan of articles for individual songs, but it appears that this is likely to chart and prove its notability under the current guideline. Keep for now and move to Superstars (song). Maybe this "should have been added Monday", but under the same reasoning, deleting it now is an unnecessary process. The artist is clearly notable, and it seems likely that the song will be notable, and we'll surely know better in a little while. Dekimasuよ! 03:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. The song is not notable at this point, based on any information in the article. Except that David Fonseca is involved, and the song will appear soon, there is really no other information. I have no objection to recreating the article later after the song comes out, there has been a chance to add third party commentary, and the song can be judged notable based on the independent sources. EdJohnston 15:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CitiCat ^♫ 18:22, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I've relisted due to the release date having passed. Previous rational for keeping or deleting may no longer apply.
• Comment Still no sources to demonstrate notability, but that applies to about a million song articles by notable artists which tend not to get nominated for deletion. WP:CRYSTAL is obsolete, and I can't fathom why the nom would start a process one of the rationales for which would change halfway through. WP:CHILL applies here as well. Weakest possible keep as it seems it will be sourceable. --Dhartung | Talk 19:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
• Neutral but I added the future tag. Bearian 23:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.