Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Sonic

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Please defer merge discussion to article talk. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 23:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Super Sonic

This article is redundant as mostly all of the information is already on Sonic's page, and no other Super form has an article to itself. The comic information can go in Sonic's articles for the respective canons. Grandmastergalvatron 15:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

• Merge or Weak keep. The best solution would be to merge into the Sonic page whatever isn't there already. Lots of video game characters have powered-up forms, and aren't generally given seperate articles. Even the most famous, Super Mario, is a redirect to Mario's page. That said, I am strongly opposed to outright deletion, as a lot of good information would be lost. Merge with great care or leave it alone. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:18, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable transformation of a very notable character. A merge would inflate the article too much.--Andeh 16:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Vrrt 23:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Merging this would make the Sonic article to large, or require a large amount of information be lost. Keep this and remove any doubled information on Sonic's page. --Zikar 23:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
• Merge Merging this into the Sonic article is a great idea, considering that it is one of Sonic's transformations. --Fastnaturedude 19:36, 22 September 2006 (GMT -5)
• Merge or Weak keep for the same reasons as Starblind. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 01:35, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• At some point I'm going to make a go at vastly reducing and merging this into the Sonic the Hedgehog character article at some point, but it doesn't need to be deleted. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:02, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Andypandy. While a good idea, explaining the background of Super Sonic in each article would be a bit much. It is needlessly tiresome to maintain information that is duplicated across different pages. --DavidHOzAu 07:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Mariokid19. Keep it. --Mariokid19OzAu 07:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep or a possible Weak Merge with Sonic the Hedgehog (character). Keep because Super Sonic is a notable character, having appeared in nearly every game. Weak Merge for the reasons that Sonic and Super SOnic are the same character. UnDeRsCoRe 20:28, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Of course, Fleetway's Super Sonic is totally diffrent and indeed a seperate character for large portion of the comic's run. --Zikar 22:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Or Create an article on all Super forms/Transformations of characters in Sonic's universe and merge this one with it.Czin 22:39, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 22:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

If it were a new article like you say, I'd suggest Super transformations in Sonic the Hedgehog series; long and unwieldy, yet accurate. The problem is that it reduces the article to documenting just another series with a Super transformation instead of a discussion of the character and his imitations. The former of these two options cannot do the latter justice, but the latter can discuss both. (as evidenced by the present article.) --DavidHOzAu 06:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I like this idea. Can we make a propostion on this? GrandMasterGalvatron 13:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Some series' have articles on about every character in them ( ie: Dragon ball z and star wars. The character, dark super sonic, and fleetway super sonic are all prominet characters in there own right. , so keep, not merge or delete.

• Merge I already stated my opinion earlier, but whoever did that last edit needs to post their name or at least their IP. And, DBZ and Star Wars have way more characters. Super Saiyan Goku does not have his own article, and neither does Darth Vader. Those are two examples of transformations. So we should just merge this. --Fastnaturedude 21:37, 23 September 2006

Darth Vader does have his own article. Seperate from Anikin Skywalker even. I also wouldn't call it a transformation in the same sense. A better example off the top of my head would be Usagi Tsukino, perhaps. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 02:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd also like to point out again that Super Sonic in Fleetway is a TOTALLY diffrent character. --Zikar 02:09, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Separate character, yes, but they are not so different on a basic level that it would warrant a separate article. --DavidHOzAu 06:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you should read the article, Fleetway's Sonic and Super Sonic are nothing alike. One is good and the hero of Mobius, the other is pure evil incarnate with the power to destroy planets and has a thurst for destruction and suffering... I think that's pretty diffrent on a 'basic level'. --Zikar 08:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Both glow yellow, powered by chaos emeralds, etc. --DavidHOzAu 04:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

That's kind of a flimsy argument... --Zikar 04:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

It's also perfectly accurate... :D --DavidHOzAu 05:47, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep It is a notable transformation of a notable character; also, given that "Super Sonic" has made more appearances than the other "Super" incarnations of other characters, it stands to reason that Super Sonic should have his own article. Any differences between Super Sonic versions (and there are a few) could be documented here. Finally, as another Wikiuser has noted, merging this with Sonic's article would inflate it too much. --PeanutCheeseBar 15:45, 24 September 2006 (EST)
• Keep. I agree with PeanutCheeseBar, a notable transformation of a notable character, and he has made more appearances than the other super characters. There is also a large amount of info about him, not only his game form, but his Archie form as well. SuperSonic 20:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I think Super Sonic should be a large section of the Sonic the Hedgehog article because Super Sonic is the same character as Sonic so there is no reason to have a different article about the same character in another form. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarvisganon (talk • contribs)
• Keep Important character transformation, is in almost every Sonic the Hedgehog game. PSMax8956 00:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Like others have already said, it is a very important character transformation which has appeared in basically every sonic game. Also like mentioned already a merge would inflate the sonic article a lot. --Silver Sonic Shadow 21:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.