Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Super Saiyan 4 Gojita

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete and redirect to Gogeta. – Jitse Niesen (talk) 23:57, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Super Saiyan 4 Gojita

This is a duplicate article of Gogeta and also it is very messy. Super Saiyan Plough 04:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete and redirect to Gogeta Saberwyn 07:52, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• KEEP , authentic and more information on SSJ4 Gojita —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.95.203 (talk • contribs) 09:38, 14 October 2005

I WAS the one who added a lot of information to the page of "Gogeta" though some of them have been removed by "kids". I am only doing this for the benefit of the western world who seems to think the information they have is more accurate than from a Japanese source for A-ni-me. For those who doesn't like the page of "Super Saiyan 4 Gojita" can goto "Gogeta" page instead. Super Saiyan 4 Gojita is not a duplication of Gogeta, it concentrates on SSJ 4 Gojita only. This is a special character in the Dragonball GT series and deserves an entire page on its own. "Super Saiyan 4 Gojita" page provides more information on the character, not to mention it is the most authentic.

For user SS Plough: Just visit page "Gogeta" Do not bother with page "Super Saiyan 4 Gojita". My page provides authentic information from JAPANESE ORIGINALS with pictures, not western dubbed rubbish. If this is a web page, it would be more nicely laid out, but most people on here are interested in information, not decoration, much like crap such as Macromedia's Flash. Page Gogeta is also a messy page, information is not in any order or structure.

For people who are interested in general information on the character Gogeta may visit page Gogeta. For more detailed information on Super Saiyan 4 Gojita (the most powerful character in Dragonball Z/ GT universe, this is mentioned in the Japanese original version), they should visit "Super Saiyan 4 Gogita".

• Delete and redirect as per Saberwyn. Gogeta in any form only appears in one movie and maybe one or two GT episodes if I recall correctly. We don't need 2 pages about him. Besides, SSJ4 Gogeta is the same person as Gogeta, just using a special ability. flowersofnight 13:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
• I would want to vote for merge with Gogeta and redirect. However, the author does not want to merge. In my opinion, this means he is withdrawing his decision to put this under GNU/FDL. Although technically we would have the right to do this, since the text is indeed under GNU/FDL, I think the honorable thing would be to delete. - Andre Engels 13:29, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• It IS NOT the same person. SSJ4 is an important and most powerful character in the whole Dragonball universe (please refer to Japanese web sites or ask Mr. Toriyama himself as he has approved the story). Page Gogeta talks mostly about SSJ 2 form of Gogeta and why should that page has importance and priority over "Super Saiyan 4 Gojita"?? What about importing page Gogeta's information into Super Saiyan 4 Gojita??

Erased page will be resubmited over and over again. If you don't like the Gojita page, then read Gogeta page. Do not bother and disturb the Gojita's page.

It is also very interesting to know that all of the sudden there is a group of people supporting the other page. Does the author of page Gogeta have friends or companies forming an alliance? ......or seemingly different people but in fact self-support masqueraded by the same person??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masato (talk • contribs) 08:40, October 14, 2005

• Delete as per Andre Engels. I'd vote merge as well, but as the creator of the article does not WANT it merged, the only choice left is delete. Masato, note that there aren't pages for SSj1 Goku, SSj2 Goku, SSj3 Goku, etc. They all go under one article page. All versions of Gogeta/Gojita should do the same, because they are NOT seperate characters. This seems a clear case of you wanting to have your own page rather than doing the much more logical AND Wikipedia-rules friendly action of cleaning up Gogeta rather than complaining about it. Also, please sign your comments. Thank you. Nezu Chiza 16:15, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• Masato: That is NOT the point. I do not disturb other's work and do not care if there are pages on different characters for any series. I don't have to read them and do not concern about erasing other's work. I am only concerned with information. You read what you like and stick with the other page if you like. Don't dictate what others do!

The author has decided to erase the gojita page, not to waste time on the western world. Also, like we use real IP address !!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.30.64.72 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 15 October 2005

• Merge and redirect. Otherwise we face the potential of having each version of every character (if I recall correctly, some have > 3 different versions) have a page of their own. Oberiko 21:19, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: Oberiko has it in one. If every character in every fictional work had an article for each of their forms, the amount of Wikipdia articles would more than quadruple, and sooo many would be duplicate articles. Even Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader have to share. Plough talk to me 00:56, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.