Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunrise paper

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Enochlau 02:03, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sunrise paper

This is an article about a non-notable paper manufacurer. I presume it was uploaded by someone who works for the firm as the logo image is described as "our free use logo image". Thryduulf 00:41, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Speedy. Article creator Jtbobwaysf is in process of spamming several pages with links to this article and his Yoga studios also. Speedy for vandalism. Herostratus 02:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete Obvious spam. --негіднийлють (Reply|Spam Me!*|RfS) 06:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Do Not Delete. Spam? Why is it spam to include your company profile in wikipedia? Also curious that we are not considered notable when they are one of the largest paper suppliers in China. jtbobwaysf 02:45, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Reading WP:SPAM may be a good start as well as WP:CORP. If your company is indeed one of the largest in China, this could well be worth including, but we'd need some independant sources to prove that. - Mgm|(talk) 11:02, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Don't delete speedily; give the article creator the rest of the AfD time to come up with sources that we can use to verify that this company has a very large share of the Chinese paper market, because if that's true then we want a (suitably NPOV) article on it. But delete nonetheless iff these sources are not forthcoming. It can always be recreated if evidence is found later on. — Haeleth Talk 13:41, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: looks a lot like spam at present; China has a large Internet presence (unlike this company). No trace of stock listing at this time, still looking. Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] (W) AfD? 15:23, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete currently it's nothing more than spam. --Bachrach44 15:58, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, but will reconsider per Haeleth. Agree with Hirostratus that spammy links like the one added to A4 paper are innapropriate whetever the result of this AfD. AndyJones 17:56, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

*Delete. It IS spam. User jtbobwaysf inserted an egregious link to this article in the technical article A4 paper, and also inserted egrious links to his also-AfD's article It's Yoga in 2 or 3 Yoga articles, and those have been his only contributions so far. Whether or not the company might be notable I don't know, but since this article is WP:SPAM I say delete on sight. Herostratus 18:42, 5 December 2005 (UTC) Oops I had already voted, sorry. Herostratus

  • Do Not Delete, Was not trying to spam. Just made some links in areas that are relevant. Did not know that was not allowed. Sorry if I violated the wikipedia TOS. Sunrise Paper is not a public company and do not intend to go public at this time. Is this category only for public companies? What kind of 'indpendent verification' is required here? This seems all quite a bit over the top here. They are listed in DMOZ, paperfiber.com, and are a serious company. They export more than 20,000 Metric Tons per month. (If anyone here is in the paper business they will know what that means.) BTW-This same 'not-notable' objection is coming up for the Its Yoga posting that I put up. They are one of the oldest yoga studios in the USA, and have many itsyoga branded/owned studios around the world, are listed in both DMOZ and yahoo, and have the largest yoga studio in San Francisco. Their guru Larry Schultz is one of the most renowned yoga guru's in the USA. What is the measure of 'notable' for wikipedia? There are many single location yoga studios listed in wikipedia and I even recognize some of them their teachers were certified by Guru Larry. jtbobwaysf 17:56, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
    • I've struck out the vote portion of the above comment, jtbobwaysf has already voted above. Thryduulf 08:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete spam --Mecanismo 15:03, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.