Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stu Kerr

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was null and void. Mailer Diablo 19:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stu Kerr

• Keep The Baltimore Washington market is one that many personalities considered better that going to the network. Any person that would delete this man of distinction and who was such a Broadcasting pioneer has personal issues.

Please leave Stu Kerr's article ALONE!!

• Now check out the following from some idiot with nothing better to do:

100% pure cruft. This guy isn't Al Roker or Ted Koppel, just some guy who wasn't good enough to leave local TV to get a network TV job where he may actually have become a notable person, someone notable enought to meet the WP:BIO standards. Adam 1212 02:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Indef blocked sock, see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Spotteddogsdotorg. -Splash - tk 21:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Bozo the Clown is VERY notable in its own right. The article also references several other notable films & TV shows. Agne 05:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. I was going to vote keep but our article on Bozo the Clown said it was a franchised show with each area having its own Bozo. Willard Scott was arguably the most notable. Capitalistroadster 07:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, only local enemies and many people played Bozo. -- Kjkolb 07:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: Within Baltimore, he's sort of known, but that makes him a regional celebrity. Because he was not a permanent fixture and because John Waters hasn't featured him yet (or the article doesn't say), he's not passing into general culture. Geogre 14:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete there was not just one Bozo the Clown, but many local versions. This was one of the many local versons. The guy was also a bit player in a couple of movies, too which also doesné make him notable. If the guy had any real talent he would have not been stuck in Baltimore for his career. He may be kinda sorta notable in Baltimore, but that may be it. Cheesehead 1980 14:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

  Indef blocked sock, see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Spotteddogsdotorg. -Splash - tk 21:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment I think the assumption (especially as it is laid out in the nomination) that because a news personality didn't do network then they don't have talent is uncivil and unfair to the subject. There are many reasons for declining a national network job (relocating family, change in lifestyle, etc) that keep alot of very talented broadcasters in their local market. In regards to Bozo, yes there were several local Bozos but that still doesn't decline the notability of that particular local Bozos. Many, many children who grew up in Baltimore area (and DC too) who want to look up info on their Bozo are not going to want to read about Willard Scott. They're going to want to read about Stu Kerr. I also think we're not giving enough credit for his service to children's television including his role in shaping Kevin Clash's career--without whom we would have never had the Elmo phenomenon. Agne 16:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Nominations like this are a bit insulting, and it would be much better if we avoiding trying to insult our subjects. Ill will is bred that way. Even if the authors are well-known for their obsessiveness with inappropriate content (the Philadelphia news watcher has been around for a long time, and he or she keeps churning these things out), we have no need to be insulting. Geogre 19:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. wikipediatrix 17:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- he was on Kaptain Kangeroo, and that only wikipediatrix above so far gave a non-ridiculous sounding (implied) reason for delete. Really, is being in a John Walters film the bar we're going to set to be included in Wikipedia? — SterlingNorth 11:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep" - Not sure if my last edit went through. Stu Kerr was an integral part of early television in Baltimore. I had the honor of meeting Stu while a broadcasting student and he shared that "The Early Riser" (where he did his janitor character) was a staple of early television because a good part of the show was improvised. Stu was also the host of the popular "Dialing for Dollars" for several years on WMAR TV. Deleting Stu's contributions would be a major loss because media students would be unable to read about one of the pioneers of childrens' shows and the days of early television. Joyce 7122 Baltimore Maryland - August 1st
• Keep per Agne. Besides, we don't want Spotteddogsdotorg to get his way. ErikNY 17:33, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Agne and ErikNY. AgentPeppermint 20:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

• Keep -- one of the local early legends of the mid-atlantic TV market

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.