Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Strong Island Sound

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was SPEEDY KEEP. Harro5 05:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strong Island Sound

non-notable, almost no google verification, only results are for [1] which has nothing to with this--152.163.100.13 11:40, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

my mistake. change non-notable baseball team, to non-notable basketball team, still falls short of notability, as the new google search obviously confirms--152.163.100.13 15:34, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep since the sports organization the team belongs to already has its own article, the team should have one too. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 11:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep This team meets every single criteria for retention as a professional sports team playing in the American Basketball Association. The nominator seems to be completely ignorant of the fact that the Strong Island Sound is in fact a basketball team, despite the fact that it is the seventh word in the article, within the name of the league in which it participates. The first Google search provided only lists 40 hits, which could be because the nominator appended "baseball team" to the search; that anything was found by that search is a borderline miracle. The second Google search provided as "justification" for the AfD lists 11,700 references to the team itself, which has everything to do with why it should be retained immediately as a Speedy Keep. This is yet another unfortunate example of how the AfD process is misused and abused, and why AfD's should NOT be accepted from IP Addresses. Please actually READ the article before ignorantly suggesting it be deleted. Alansohn 12:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• That's a nice lecture and everything, but since you wrote the article, obviously you feel it's notable, but thanks for making a cheap shot about how anons shouldn't create afds, guess what, anons can't create afd pages or any pages for that matter, seems like someone else should pay more attention before pointing fingers, and it isn't me. A non-notable basketball team isn't any better than a non-notable baseball team--152.163.100.13 15:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• The "Strong Island Sound" Google search is up to 11,800 items, almost all of which are clearly referring to the professional basketball team in question. The fact that a search appending "basketball" yields a smaller number of hits is not only irrelevant to justifying an AfD (after all, most people don't refer to a team with the name of the sport included), but the nunber of pages found, in and of itself, is evidence of notability. The fact that this IP Address user's entire experience on Wikipedia consists of two AfD's should also be cause for concern. Alansohn 15:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• and by the time you get to the 3rd or 4th page of strong island sound the results haven little or nothing to do with the team, and are simply puns of the phrase "strong island" and "long island sound"--152.163.100.13 15:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Ah, not to mention only 260 unique results anyway, and that's for 'strong island sound'--152.163.100.13 16:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• To clarify, I am NOT the author of the article, as a prefunctory review of the article's history would have shown. I did not touch this article until some three months after its creation, when I linked here from another article (that I had also not created) that was in my sphere of interest in Wikiproject New Jersey. The article was wikified and copyedited and -- both then and now -- deserves to be retained. This article meets every single objective criterion for notability for a professional sports team. Google is simply not enough to justify keeping OR DELETING an article. There is no arbitrary threshhold number of pages that you could specify that would justify deletion of this article, given its content and nature. Please find some objective standard that this article doesn't meet and let's stop with the Google War. Alansohn 16:07, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Speed Keep per Alansohn. Bucketsofg 12:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep This appears to be as notable as the other blue-linked teams on the American Basketball Association article page. A Google search provides 540 hits with the search term '"Strong Island Sound" +basketball'. This could be a bad-faith nomination on the part of the IP adress nominator.  (aeropagitica)  13:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Not everything with google hits is notable, and certianly 500 or so hits is not automatically criteria for notability--152.163.100.13 15:48, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Minor league professional sports teams are generally notable, certainly as notable as Pokemon characters and Air Force Amy. Monicasdude 16:13, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong (almost speedy) keep. Minor leagues and their teams are usually notable, but especially a team that's a part of something with the history and recognition of the ABA. If its an expansion team it might not google too well right now, but it is notable. Grandmasterka 18:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Professional basketball team. As notable as any other new-ABA team. No contest here. --Kinu ^t/_c 18:15, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep As the anon obviously made a mistake and didn't know what they were nominating. Mistakes are ok, if you can admit when you make one. One more reason not to allow anon noms. --Rob 19:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.